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I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, and I agree that he shouldn't use unauthorized music (including "You Can't Always Get What You Want", which was not only unauthorized, but is a very strange choice).  That being said, that article is outrageously left-wing when it claims that Trump & company have tried to make the USA a hell-hole for everyone who doesn't look like him. 

A left-wing author attributing words to Tom Petty against Trump & company that Petty never said, is as bad or worse than Trump using Tom Petty's song unauthorized at a rally.  The agenda of the left is to discredit any non-Marxist as a racist and unfit for office, rather than actually discussing the policies of Marxism vs. freedom.  That's what that column was about, not about Tom Petty's political views.  

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2 hours ago, TheSameOldDrew said:

unfit for office

Haha.. right. I was thinking along similar lines myself about some of that "reporting".

Still, though.. in all fairness, you really think anyone could do better than DT himself in laying bare his bottomless unfitness? I mean, all things Trump himself claims to be a master genius at put aside, when it just comes to openly, even proudly, being dangerously immature and incompetent, he's in a league of his very stable own. No one could ever touch those embarrassing hights of documented silly, and likely no one ever will.. Once he's trampled all rules and moral standards and officially made himself emperor-in-the-nude, he sure 'won't back down'. So, at least for once, I guess I see his rationale in this here issue.

But, that stupid "article" aside.. I come to realize that the TP estate's own press release, as I understand it, was being quite outspoken in their judgement, even without any alledged "Marxist" evil journalist to put words in their mouths. I think, for the first time in quite a while, the estate did alright on this one. (Maybe they figured that being lumped in with "Marxists" - no matter how misleading and absurd an invective in this case - is at least better than the raging mad alternative on the podium. Kinda like when "bad" in certain contexts means "good". )

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Now that DT has destroyed our country in 4 short years, and this site and forum will no longer be after July. Let's fight 1 more time as a group in the name of Tom Petty by attending and starting rallies against DT this election by turning the tables against DT by "US" (the real people) singing and playing "I WON"T BACK DOWN" . I'm sure the Petty family would support us singing and playing Tom's songs for the freedom our friends and relatives have died for to make this country great. BTW, It was always great, even at the worst of times!

Turn this around for Tom and the Petty family and play Tom's music at ANTI-TRUMP events around the country and the world. Tom's music belongs to the free and the brave!

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^    That being said, we unite with Tom's music against DT so he can't use it......lol. If you think DT is too smart for that, then answer this question.

How does an owner of a Casino go bankrupt when gambling at a casino is fixed and the casino can't loose?

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57 minutes ago, Dezi said:

Tom Petty has always been super “left wing.” Read any interview, listen to any lyrics.

Not true.  He's always stood for freedom, not for big government control.  His main political issue was the environment.  He was in favor of fans getting a fair price for a good product, but he also wasn't against working hard and making money.  

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I just read this article.  Based on what you say, thought they'd mention: 

  • Marx
  • Tom Petty's words

Not a peep beyond TP's lyrics.   

So, really, are you okay? 

Did you read another article?  Surely you're not, what's the phrase, "attributing words" the author never used?  

4 hours ago, TheSameOldDrew said:

That being said, that article is outrageously left-wing when it claims that Trump & company have tried to make the USA a hell-hole for everyone who doesn't look like him. 

Yes. They. Have. Tried. To. 

PLEASE stop trying to talk politics in a music forum.  

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1 hour ago, nurktwin said:

Now that DT has destroyed our country in 4 short years, and this site and forum will no longer be after July.

What?  That's the first I've heard of the end of Mudcrutch Farm.  As to DT "destroying the country", sure he says and does some silly things, but what has he done that is anti-American or destructive?  True he hasn't been for wide-open borders.  True he hasn't been for equal distribution of personal productivity.  Effectively he's supported the USA as a country of freedom for its citizens, not as the Marxist dream state that some people think they want.  But "destroyed the country"?  That's political hyperbole, not even close to reality.  

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This forum started 20 years ago with a "BANG" and it should go out with a "BANG". Now is not the time to shut your mouth, DT will do that for you in another 4 years. Speak up or die!!!!!!!!!!

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2 minutes ago, nurktwin said:

This forum started 20 years ago with a "BANG" and it should go out with a "BANG". Now is not the time to shut your mouth, DT will do that for you in another 4 years. Speak up or die!!!!!!!!!!

How the heck is DT shutting down this forum?  You are out of your mind with nonsense.

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Just now, Big Blue Sky said:

You! I'm asking YOU to stop talking politics!

So you only want people to talk politics when you agree with them?  But if someone responds to someone else's political post, that's wrong?  

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It's funny how some people confuse their emotions with reality.  They can't make a case supporting their views, but they "feel" a certain way because they've been told to feel a certain way.  And they get angry when someone challenges their emotions with facts. This should be a music forum, but this topic was started by someone with a political agenda. 

Responding to political ranting is not "making it political".  I realize that some people don't want to hear a viewpoint that disagrees with what they've been told to believe.  As TP himself said though "You believe what you want to believe.. everybody's had to fight to be free".  I am sad to see a lot of lemmings caving in to political propaganda, rather than thinking for themselves.  

 

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^^   You obviously aren't an American or you wouldn't talk that way. Maybe you do here on this site cuz you aren't allowed in your country! That's what DT wants here, White Power and you can't see it. He want's 1 race (sound familiar?) his. He has divided this country (divide & conquer), ever hear of that? In 4 years he has made the rich richer and the poor poorer, part of the plan for Billionaires to eliminate people like us! Stand up and fight before it's too late. USA history has been ruined and torn down, what will be torn down next, the statue of Liberty? Why not the statue of MLK?? Idiots tear and burn down their cities and destroy their shops and neighborhoods and there is no GOV, STATE, or City money to rebuild it, so what the hell is wrong with these deranged rioters? then they wonder why they live in poverty and ask for free money to survive. That's NOT America. America is putting your ass to work and working hard for what you have and get. Nothing is free. So don't think a riot is gonna get you anything but truble.

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how fast they come out of the ground for a free download from the starters of this forum, but criticize everything else. I told you this would go out with a bang, but you just don't listen. This site is over, ask the owner, proves you don't read anything here, you just came for the free stuff.

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6 minutes ago, nurktwin said:

That's what DT wants here, White Power and you can't see it. He want's 1 race (sound familiar?) his. He has divided this country (divide & conquer), ever hear of that? In 4 years he has made the rich richer and the poor poorer, part of the plan for Billionaires to eliminate people like us!

Seriously, you believe that?  That's just sad.  The press has divided the country, not DT.  Am I a big DT fan, no I'm am not.  But I certainly don't want AOC's party to turn the USA into Venezuela or North Korea.  America is that home of the free, not the freeloaders.  

Unemployment went to record lows during Trump's term.  Personal income rose strongly for everyone, not just the rich. The virus and gubernatorial shutdowns caused unemployment to rise, not DT.  The virus and the media were big factors in the riots.  The media has caused huge divisions in the USA, for political reasons.  You are blind if you think the media is giving you an unbiased portrait of America. 

By the way, Tom Petty was in the 1% - do you hate him for that?  He worked hard and created something of value, and he was rewarded monetarily for that.  That's not a crime in my book.  He didn't force anyone to listen to his music or pay him anything.  Sorry to see that some people hate the free market.   

 

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16 minutes ago, TheSameOldDrew said:

As TP himself said though "You believe what you want to believe.. everybody's had to fight to be free". 

Correction:

  • Everybody's got to fight to be free.  Present and future tense. Interesting.  Dynamic.  Potentially personal.  The lyrics in the song.
  • Everybody's had to fight to be free.  Past tense.  Over & done with.   

If you're going to quote the band's lyrics on the band's fan-page, please do try to get them right. 

By they way, I have reported this thread, as it's getting horrible.  

 

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