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15 hours ago, Shelter said:

 😁 I see where you're going with that.. 30 years ago was 1988.. And I obviously meant 20 years ago.. or to be exact 22.. 1996 it was, when I started haunting TP fans online.. Not that it matter much, but a guy with my math skills was not aware of ICR in 1988, let alone taking part in it.. Thanks for putting that straight.

Perhaps this looks familiar? 

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Haha.. yeah.. wow. Something like that, yeah. I had my first lap top, big as a suitcase.. and listening to STO more or less daily.. However, at the time I was still ordering my rare records and live tapes from analogue printed/xeroxed paper record lists that was sent to me from collectors in the UK. 

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came across this interview with the new guy. :)   Seems like a guy that would be fun to have a few beers with.  And actaully would have a few beers with you. 

http://drummagazine.com/steve-ferrones-unforgettable-moments-with-tom-petty/?fbclid=IwAR3vbGW7SfRW7qa2QaFR3boSMI33Msr7Pzs6En3RqdbNjEoiDBUsw76-vvg

and a bonus article about Ferrone from the Mojo era.

http://drummagazine.com/steve-ferrone-tapping-into-40-years-of-groove/

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As you will have seen, Redford Cowboy posted this interview link on another thread & very kindly says yes I can re-post it here.  Thanks!!

"Found a rare Interview from the Echo era. Good read!

https://www.oxfordamerican.org/magazine/item/1327-tom-petty"

What I like about this is seeing how TP's being positive about his latest album release - Echo - even though he apparently didn't really like it!  Ever the professional!!

This made me smile: "We were really kind of citified compared to them. Now, when I’m down there to do shows, a hundred Pettys will turn up and they all want in, and I have no idea who any of them are."

 

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Nice interview, thanks.  Well, they didn't quite get everything right...."The Best of Everything" release obviously hasn't happened yet.

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"And there’s more Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers material on the way. Another compilation, The Best of Everything, came out in November, and a long-in-the-works release celebrating Petty’s 1994 album, Wildflowers, is also on the horizon. “We talked quite a bit about that, and Tom wanted to do it, so out of respect to his desire, we will probably follow through on the Wildflowers project in the not-too-distant future,” he says."

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On 1/16/2019 at 11:24 AM, Hoodoo Man said:

new interview with Mike, talks about Mac, Mudcrutch, DK and our boys...  💘 

“Believe me, I’m grateful,” Campbell says. “And I feel very blessed for where I am.”

 

- 40 years in one of the greatest rock and roll bands of all time....check.

- Bob Dylan's backing band....check

- Johnny Cash's backing band....check.

- Solo gig with the DK....check

- Studio musician/producer/song writer for other acclaimed musicians....check

- Invited to join another huge, successful, renowned (but not as cool as the Heartbreakers) band....check

 

Yes, Mike, I would say you are indeed a very blessed man!!!!

 

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I have no clue how commercially viable Mike Campbell's biography would be, but given his history as a Heartbreaker and all the other projects he has worked on with Dylan, Cash as well as Boys of Summer for Henley, now being part of the Mac not to mention an impressive charity or being the house band for a number of shows I would greedily eat up every page.  It really is a wonderful life for him despite losing Tom...   

Same goes for Benmont too.  

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Well, sure, great idea. I'd also buy & read any book by them!!

Does anyone know anything about a music documentary called "Echoes In The Canyon"? Jakob Dylan interviews people - including a long interview with Tom Petty. (Which is gonna interest us all here, I feel sure). Mainly about musicians based in LA's Laurel Canyon & how they inspired & influenced others.

Some limited festival releases in 2018. Also as part of the overall creative package is some music that Jakob Dylan covered? Including "Rebels" (fine taste)?

Any info on this? At all?

*Photo is from a review of Echoes In The Canyon in a Hollywood magazine I saw online. 💟2_tom_rick_eitc-h_2018.thumb.jpg.f82eb694e8555aea8c919a431e52627b.jpg

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On 1/25/2019 at 10:44 AM, Big Blue Sky said:

Well, sure, great idea. I'd also buy & read any book by them!!

Does anyone know anything about a music documentary called "Echoes In The Canyon"? Jakob Dylan interviews people - including a long interview with Tom Petty. (Which is gonna interest us all here, I feel sure). Mainly about musicians based in LA's Laurel Canyon & how they inspired & influenced others.

Some limited festival releases in 2018. Also as part of the overall creative package is some music that Jakob Dylan covered? Including "Rebels" (fine taste)?

Any info on this? At all?

*Photo is from a review of Echoes In The Canyon in a Hollywood magazine I saw online. 💟2_tom_rick_eitc-h_2018.thumb.jpg.f82eb694e8555aea8c919a431e52627b.jpg

I would love to see this for obvious reasons and heard about it first some time last year when it was in a film festival somewhere else before (or was this just released at sundance now and promoted last year?)

Looks like it just got picked up for distribution: (article dated 1/24/19) 

https://deadline.com/2019/01/greenwich-acquires-music-documentary-echo-in-the-canyon-1202541020/

EXCLUSIVE: As the 2019 Sundance Film Festival begins tonight with a number of promising acquisition titles including opener After the Wedding, we can report that the opening-night film of September’s Los Angeles Film Festival, Echo in the Canyonhas just been picked up for distribution by Greenwich Entertainment. It announced today the acquisition of U.S. rights to the 1960s-era musical documentary from Andrew Slater, a first-time filmmaker and veteran music scene insider who has worked as a journalist, record producer and label executive. The film was produced by Eric Barrett and executive produced by Jakob Dylan and Dan Braun. Greenwich is planning a late-spring theatrical run alongside concerts with musicians from the film and a corresponding BMG record with Jakob Dylan, Cat Power, Regina Spektor and Beck re-creating music from the Byrds, the Beach Boys, Buffalo Springfield and the Mama and the Papas.

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I posted this in the Zanes and Zollo thread and at the request of BBS I am cross posting it over here.   Looks like Paul Zollo plans to turn some of the conversations he had with Tom into podcasts with slightly cleaned up audio.  The interesting thing about the audio is you can see how the discussion went and a bit of the editorial process Paul used to clean it up for print. Always a pleasure to hear Tom speak at length especially about his music.  Enjoy! 🎩💘

 

Pauls Post on FB below:

  Reveal hidden contents
Paul Zollo is with Keith Eveland.
20 hrs · 
 

Very happy that my Louise Goffin co-hosted songwriting podcast is now on YouTube. And for all my friends at Tom Petty Nation and everywhere, I am posting this - an archival interview with Tom I did in 1999 - this is mostly about the creation of Echo.

This interview - and all my interviews with Tom - including a year's worth working on "Conversations with Tom Petty" - were done for print - for magazines and for the book. I recorded them on cassette tapes - always had two machines going just in case. Just the little tiny ones.

Never did I consider the audio of these would be worth hearing. But now we can clean up the sound a lot (i don't miss this hiss) - and it sounds pretty good.

But what it has that print doesn't is Tom's voice. And in that gentle voice with its warm accents of the south - his spirit is so present. That voice is so distinctive - as so many of you know well - and so friendly, that it could be no one else. Gives me chills every time I hear it.

You can hear all 19 of our episodes so far. It has been a great adventure - in that we've been steadily compiling a great collection of new interviews, including the most open intimate interview ever with the great Carole King, who asked us if she could be on the show after hearing our Chrissie Hynde interview. Yes! We had such a warm and expansive talk - that it stretched into five episodes, which will premiere on the eve of her 77th birthday, this Friday, February 8.

Many more archival shows with Tom will be coming - as well as with Zappa, Paul Simon, Bob Dylan, Harry Nilsson, Dave Brubeck, Laura Nyro, James Taylor, Patti Smith, Randy Newman, Yoko Ono, Mose Allison, Townes Van Zandt and more.

Tom loved to talk about songwriting and record-making - and loved that I would learn how to play his songs - so I knew what went into them. Because of it, it's a talk between two musicians -and he opens up about all aspects of his art and craft.

Here is Episode 6 with Tom. For you! All of you

Link to a podcast with some of the older audio for Echo.

http://www.thegreatsongadventure.com/e/episode-five-tom-petty-a-1999-archival-interview/

I find it interesting how the conversation is somewhat meandering compared to the book where there was clearly editing of the conversation for the book.  Audio is a little scratchy. Seems like it may be on Youtube for future stuff as well as this is an older podcast for a show Paul does with Louise Goffin, the first bit is Paul and Louise and then followed by the interviews with Tom. 

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New interview with Mike and Benmont about the Best of Everything. Also  touches on Mike saying why there hasn't been a tribute show yet.  Good read.. 

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-tom-petty-best-everything-collection-20190220-story.html?fbclid=IwAR05SlrmqLf0lOiS02lbS_KqssHU7ZsWPC_w06z8pkRu8nubMHyRrOdoc7Y

article in the hidden comment below...

Spoiler

 

Why the Heartbreakers are resisting the lure of an all-star Tom Petty tribute

 
By RANDY LEWIS
FEB 22, 2019 | 8:35 AM
 
Why the Heartbreakers are resisting the lure of an all-star Tom Petty tribute
Tom Petty performs with the Heartbreakers at the Hollywood Bowl on the opening night of a three-night stand in 2017 that concluded the band's 40th-anniversary tour. (Luis Sinco / Los Angeles Times)
 

One aspect of Tom Petty’s music that comes into sharper focus in a comprehensive new collection is how consistently he kept the long view in mind.

That’s clear in any number of the 38 tracks chosen for “Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers: The Best of Everything — The Definitive Career Spanning Hits Collection 1976-2016” arriving March 1. The new set is more or less a bookend to last year’s posthumous box “Tom Petty: American Treasure,” which served up 60 tracks, predominantly alternate takes, live performances and assorted rarities.

Petty’s big-picture take on music is perhaps most clearly laid out in “For Real,” a previously unreleased track that serves as the moving/touching finale of the new set. It possesses the relatability and healthy dose of self-effacing humor that frequently defined his songwriting.

“Mighta done it for my sanity/Maybe done it for my vanity/Could be I did it for my big ego/But I did it for real/Woulda done it for free/Yeah I did it for me/Cause it was all that rang true/I did it for real/And I did it for you (true).”

But this is not a confessional track from of a musician toward the end of a career. The potentially surprising realization for many is that it was recorded nearly 20 years ago, around the time Petty turned 50.

“Yeah, like ‘Why would I do this?’” lead guitarist Mike Campbell recalled in a recent interview. “I did it for real. I did it for me — not for the CEO. He always had that. That’s why he was such a great bandleader.

“I had mostly forgotten about it,” he said. “I had kind of a vague memory of it, but we found the tape and then it all came back to me.”

He added, “This song hopefully will give you a reason to buy stuff that you already have, so you have everything in one spot, plus a new song that you can only get on this record.”

The purity of purpose expressed in “For Real” is emblematic of the journey Petty traveled, most of it aided and abetted by the members of the Heartbreakers: Campbell, keyboardist Benmont Tench, bassists Ron Blair and Howie Epstein, drummers Stan Lynch and Steve Ferrone and longtime utility player Scott Thurston.

That isn’t to say there weren’t real-world issues Petty and his pals had to reckon with.

“The truth is, there was showbiz in the Heartbreakers, sure,” Tench said in a separate interview. “It’s one way to connect with people. But he wasn’t full of [himself] or out there being jarring, not remotely. He was very much — even when I disagreed really strongly — I knew that he meant what he said.”

Tench wasn’t shy about questioning a decision Petty made.

“I’d be like, ‘What? You’ve got be kidding!” But he was serious about all of it. He never said, ‘We better do this for the label or for the marketing.’ Whatever it was, first he had to be sure it makes sense for the band.”

Along with 26 Heartbreakers songs and eight solo tracks (which typically included contributions from one or more Heartbreakers), the new set also loops in four recordings from Mudcrutch, the Gainesville, Fla., band that preceded the Heartbreakers and that Petty reunited in 2008 for a second go-round.

Mudcrutch, left to right: Mike Campbell, Tom Petty, Tom Leadon, Belmont Tench and Randall Marsh photographed in Burbank in 2016
Mudcrutch, left to right: Mike Campbell, Tom Petty, Tom Leadon, Belmont Tench and Randall Marsh photographed in Burbank in 2016 (Brian van der Brug / Los Angeles Times)

Petty was joined in Mudcrutch by Campbell and Tench, plus guitarist-songwriter Tom Leadon and drummer Randall Marsh. Petty handled bass in that lineup. The core trio of Petty, Campbell and Tench came together again in Los Angeles in 1974 after Mudcrutch disbanded, giving birth to the Heartbreakers.

“That's valid work,” Campbell said. “The songs are good, and Tom loved the first Mudcrutch. That was all his baby. I think those songs deserve to be on there.”

“The Best of Everything” was crafted roughly contiguously with “American Treasure,” by the same team: Campbell, Tench, Petty’s daughter Adria, his widow Dana and engineer Ryan Ulyate.

“The through-line is obviously Tom,” Tench said. “Well, Tom and Mike. I don’t think Tom ever did anything without Mike.”

Tench said Adria Petty showed up for the brainstorming sessions with a stack of index cards, each with the title of a song on it. In democratic fashion, they tallied how many votes each song collected before determining which made the cut, and which didn’t.

Among those that did are slam-dunk songs including “Free Fallin’,” which opens the set, “American Girl,” “Breakdown,” “Refugee,” “The Waiting,” “Don’t Come Around Here No More,” “Wildflowers,” “Learning to Fly,” along with some deeper cuts such as “Saving Grace,” “Angel Dream (No. 2),” “Scare Easy,” “Square One” and “I Forgive It All” that help flesh out the full scope of Petty’s recorded legacy.

The 1993 edition of Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers included, left to right: Mike Campbell, Tom Petty, Stan Lynch, Benmont Tench and Howie Epstein.
The 1993 edition of Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers included, left to right: Mike Campbell, Tom Petty, Stan Lynch, Benmont Tench and Howie Epstein. (Caroline Greyshock / Los Angeles Times)

As for inevitable debate among fans as to individual favorites that aren’t on “The Best of Everything,” Campbell noted, “I think it’s a good problem to have.

“You can try to please as many people as possible, but you're not going to please everyone,” he said. “It's a compliment that there might be songs that some people feel like ‘I wish that one or this one was on there.’ That means they are real fans and they really love the music. I don't know, maybe they'll be a Part 3. I haven’t thought that far ahead yet.”

Indeed, Campbell and Tench said that in different ways, they’ve each to an extent staved off the grieving process over Petty’s death at 66 in 2017, just days after they completed a triumphant 40th-anniversary world tour.

The Heartbreakers backstage before the last of three sold-out performances at the Hollywood Bowl on Sept. 25, 2017, left to right: bassist Ron Blair, lead guitarist Mike Campbell, keyboardist Benmont Tench, drummer Steve Ferrone and keyboardist/guitarist Scott Thurston
The Heartbreakers backstage before the last of three sold-out performances at the Hollywood Bowl on Sept. 25, 2017, left to right: bassist Ron Blair, lead guitarist Mike Campbell, keyboardist Benmont Tench, drummer Steve Ferrone and keyboardist/guitarist Scott Thurston (Gina Ferazzi / Los Angeles Times)

“It’ll take some time — if I’ll ever get over it,” Campbell said. “But I’m getting better. I'm lucky to be busy and have lots of things to do to keep my mind off the sadness and that's been real helpful for me.” A significant part of what’s kept him busy is his new role as co-lead guitarist in a revised lineup of Fleetwood Mac, in which he and former Crowded House/Split Enz member Neil Finn are handling the duties that formerly fell to Lindsay Buckingham.

As for the prospect of any all-star Tom Petty tribute concerts involving the Heartbreakers, don’t expect that to happen anytime soon.

“I can't even wrap my mind around that,” Campbell said. “It's just too emotional. I mean, with the band I'm touring with, we do a tribute every night. We do ‘Free Falling’ with some video pictures of Tom. … We tried to get into that and it was just too soon, too emotional. I don't know if I really need or want to do that. I think if other people want to do tribute concerts, that would be great. But right now, I'm not feeling it, honestly, just to get the Heartbreakers together without Tom.”

For Tench, the delay in grieving Petty’s death has more to do with the modus operandi they had following Heartbreakers tours. Typically it would be several weeks, even a few months, after a tour ended before Tench would hear from Petty about getting together again to rehearse, record or hang out. But now, 16 months down the line, the loss hits hard.

“I listened to it [the new collection’s title song] with my wife, and it was hard to hear,” Tench said. “The fact that he’s gone gets more real, it becomes more evident, every day. It’s pretty rough.

“I also listened to a bit of the vinyl today,” he said of the four-LP analog edition of the album also being released for streaming and as a two-CD set. “I’d forgotten we did cut some stuff that was kinda just me and him. I’ve said this before, but there is a sound two musicians make together and no other combination is going to make that sound. There’s a sound he and Mike and I made, and a sound we all made with the band. And I really miss that sound, I miss making that sound with him.”

The process of looking back on their long journey together also gave Campbell renewed appreciation for what he, Petty, Tench and their bandmates achieved. It’s a journey Petty himself poignantly summed up in a line from the album’s title track (represented on the new set with an alternate take that restores an additional verse originally omitted): “It's over before you know it/It all goes by so fast/And the bad nights take forever/And the good nights don't ever seem to last.”

“We were not really retro-looking people,” Campbell said. “When Tom was alive, we didn't really look back and get nostalgic about what we've done. We used to keep moving forward. We were always watching for what’s the next project, what’s the next gig?

“Now that he has left us, we’re forced to look back and it's amazing how much stuff we did, and how much of that holds up,” Campbell said. “I'm really proud of our legacy.”

 

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12 minutes ago, Hoodoo Man said:

New interview with Mike and Benmont

Thanks for posting this. 

I'm glad there's no rush for a tribute show.

While it could be fabulous, I've no real need to hear/watch a bunch of random musicians/singers play most likely the same old songs with the band. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens at some point and I may change my mind and be glad it happened but at this point in time, I don't need another version of Free Fallin'. Especially since most (not all) of the covers are just pretty much the song as is.

As for the box set, I'm glad people can purchase For Real on its own. I can appreciate them trying to diplomatically figure out what songs to add to this but really, it's just another compilation after Greatest Hits/Anthology Through the Years and American Treasure. I realize everyone has different taste and are excited about this but I don't get it. 

Maybe future releases will be collections of unreleased tunes, like For Real and Walkin' From the Fire. But for all the Wildflowers fans out there who have been diligently waiting, I hope you get All The Rest next.

cheers

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52 minutes ago, bonddm said:

Thanks for posting! 

The first one in ages to not even mention "All The Rest" and various ideas of live releases.. It does, however, mention potential future releases of early Mudcrutch. And what may or may not be understood as some kinda "Last DJ - All The Rest" and "Hypnotic Eye -All The Rest". Ideas - and seemingly vaults too - sure are piling up! As does hope and expectations not likely to be fulfilled within any foreseeable future. Still.. sure... they managed to get two projects - one of which was very ambitious in scope and outlook even - out within just a few months.. So who really knows what will happen. 

Still, though.. Tom's own nr one baby "Wildflowers - All The Rest" keeps seemingly to be pushed off, explained away and now simply ignored, the same way it always was, from the start. I wonder - as Tom half hinted at certain resistance against the project - if there may now be suits who have decided to finally scrap it. I wouldn't really prefer to think so, because it would be a disaster to pull that one - artistically and commercially. Because, let's face it, The Last DJ demos would be absolutely fantastic, but beyond this point any archival treasure release imaginable would be aimed at aficionados/collector fans first and foremost. Any release except Wildflowers, that is - that still may have some wider market appeal and legend to boost some sales. I guess we will have see how they handle this big fat que of great ideas over the upcoming few years.

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