of the Day - 11/17/10

[Refugee 7]

Do tell!

[Echosoftom 3]

In the cases where they definitely have the right person, NO, it doesn't matter one bit to me. In fact, for those who commit horrendous crimes against children and elderly people, there should be a special kind of suffering and hell for them.

[Magnolia 171]

Personally I think that LIFE IN PRISON is worse than the dealth penalty. For the type of evil person who would commit such horrible crimes (I'm thinking of the Riverside police officer right now, that pleaded for his life before being shot with his own gun) prison is the very hell these individuals should have to endure for the rest of their natural lives. (I know, I know, that guy has not been convicted yet.)

[DCAHNM 0]

Hate to say it, but let 'em suffer.. Goodness knows the criminal put enough the victim's family through enough suffering.. I'm with Ron White on this one. "If you kill someone, we will kill you back."

[Mudcrutch 285]

I would have to say I don't care either way.

[SingsInFrench 262]

I don't believe in the death penalty. I think its barbaric for a civilized society to put people to death. Its not a deterrent, and people are sometimes wrongly convicted.

[AngelDream 16]

^^ Emily I agree with you about Ron White's view on it, too. But I also believe if someone did the crime, they should do the same to them the same way they killed their victim....like the saying, "An eye for a eye, tooth for a tooth"...at least it will clear the prisons for more of those assholes that kill people....but then again, I beleve that some of those prisoners believe that if they live in prison for a few years and they have good behavior and show remorse, they will get out, that's complete BS!!!!.. what good would that do....a killer is always a killer and will do it again to another family's and another family will suffer again (this doesn't include people that have protected themselve or families, I'm talking about Pre-mediated murderers....they are the scum bags), get those kind the hell of prison by the death penalty, at least that will free more cells since they claim they are all overcrowded, to make room for the assholes that kill again. Leaving the more severe murderer's in prison is only making us pay more taxes to up-keep the prisons and feed those assholes!

[wild1forever 152]

I don't believe in the death penalty. I think its barbaric for a civilized society to put people to death. Its not a deterrent, and people are sometimes wrongly convicted.

I agree completely.

[LizzieB 0]

Yes, it does matter. Inflicting suffering upon someone, for any reason, is not something I would/could do personally, and I don't think we should do it as a society.

I'm just about to be convinced to be against the death penalty, for the exact reasons Susan states.

[Yer so bad 4]

I don't believe in the death penalty. I think its barbaric for a civilized society to put people to death. Its not a deterrent, and people are sometimes wrongly convicted.

I agree

[Refugee 7]

I don't care how they die. I don't care if they suffer or not. I'm sure they didn't care either when they committed an act of murder. I have NO sympathy for you, you should die too. Why should you walk around breathing, eating 3 square meals, laughing, when you took that right from someone else.

I always ask people this, if this was your child or loved one who was ruthlessly murdered and taken away from you, would you really be able to live with yourselves if this criminal was sentenced to life in prison? Probably with a chance of parole since our prison system is so full. Our judicial system is too easy, no wonder they are full, no deterrent for them not to be.

Edited November 18, 2010 by Refugee
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[agirl 0]

No. ^^ and I agree with you 100% ref. I couldn't say it better.

[nurktwin 2,143]

i agree with REF, kill the bastards.

[Amber 70]

I couldn't answer the question. I am still unsure about the death penalty. I know I would easily be able to kill someone who caused pain and death to my family, friends, or pretty much even total strangers. However, I would have to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that they did it. I do know our justice system does not always convict the right people. I also know that guilty ones go free sometimes too. I do not know what the deterent is, but I do know there is more evil in the world today than there has ever been. Those people that kill without remorse, for their own pleasure are demons as far as I am concerned and need to be removed. However, there are some circumstances when people get caught up in matters that may be technically considered murder, but may have been self-defense. I also think that men like that freak that kidnapped Elizabeth Smart should be removed from earth too. You cannot rehabilitate these folks. Nor do I want to pay the cost to keep them alive forever either. It is a tough question and each case should be analyzed carefully. I am sure if someone hurt someone close to me, I would mentally want them to suffer. However in actuality, I do not know that I could be the person to bring it about.

[Beamish 0]

I hate to admit it, but if their crime warranted a death sentence, then I'm not real concerned about their suffering.

[surfnburn 5]

I don't believe in the death penalty. I think its barbaric for a civilized society to put people to death. Its not a deterrent, and people are sometimes wrongly convicted.

I agree. I don't believe in an eye for an eye. It's a principle that forces us to act in the same way as people we Loathe. WTF? It might give the victim's family a sense of revenge. Not everyone finds satisfaction in that emotion. If it was effective in deterring crime, I'd have a different view. People who commit terrible crimes have big psychological issues. A lot have fallen into crime as a lifestyle and they don't know anything else. Chances are they are screwed up and desensitized by violence, nothing is going to phase them. Those are the problems. What makes people that way? Find the solutions and we'll save a ton of money in incarceration and law enforcement costs. Take it from someone who lives in a city with 100 killings a year.

[Refugee 7]

^ And until those "humans" (and I use that term loosely) are dealt with, that city will continue to always have the same problems they have since the 60s. Those criminals have nothing to lose. There is nothing in place to deter them from committing these crimes in the first place. Bet it would be different if they had this in the back of their mind, if I steal something, I might lose a hand. It may be barbaric, but at least the criminal will have something to think about. Then if he/she makes that choice, then so be it. They can live with their decision.

[surfnburn 5]

From what I've read a lot are retaliation killings. Gangs already live by an eye for an eye. They understand there's a good chance they'll die. I think it also hardens them and makes them indifferent to the thought of killing another. Some of the killings are "domestic disputes," arguments between people who know each other. There was a time when guys would have a fist fight. Now people solve arguements with guns. In the heat of the moment they are not thinking about the consequences of an eye for an eye. It's about getting back at someone. When Jerry Brown was mayor, there were some "anger management" programs. If people could cope with things, 30% of the deaths wouldn't happen. I don't know what happened to the program or how effective it was.

[Pawie 6]

I see it both ways. I am for the death penalty if the person is 100 % guilty and proven so. But since we know some innocent people have been executed I can't really stick to my pro death penalty anymore.

However and this is probably a total contradtiction - if anyone hurt my children and I knew for sure there was no doubt I had the guilty one, my lizzard brain would want to skin this person alive and conscious, but my mature human nature would not allow me to put anything more than death to them. If executed, do it without suffering. I wouldn't want to degrade myself to their level.

Prison may be hell, but sometimes I have a feeling it can be pretty comfortable too.

Water and bread, a hard bench and a blanket, work for your food and shut up. No rights and stay in there until you die!!

[SingsInFrench 262]

As I said, I don't believe in the death penalty, but I understand and have tremendous sympathy for victim's families, and some of them wanting revenge. Some see the death penalty as the only justice. I might feel that way too, if the victim was someone I love. But our legal system doesn't allow vengeance killing. The state should have to follow that same principle. I don't trust the government to decide who should live and who should die, even the judicial branch. If we weren't filling our prisons with drug addicts, prostitutes, and other minor criminals who committed victimless crimes, we would have room for the serious criminals to serve their full sentences. And murderers and other criminals should serve life sentences with no parole. We really need to revamp our prison system. We can't afford to keep building new prisons, and locking up addicts who need treatment.

[wild1forever 152]

I always ask people this, if this was your child or loved one who was ruthlessly murdered and taken away from you, would you really be able to live with yourselves if this criminal was sentenced to life in prison?

I've been asked this several times, so I've had the chance to really think about this situation if, God forbid, it happened. My answer is YES, I could live with myself. I would certainly do everything in my power to ensure that the criminal would NOT be paroled.

Ref and everyone else who supports the death penalty, I would ask you this: what if your child or loved one were executed for a crime he or she did not commit???

[Refugee 7]

^ I would be horrified, and if I couldn't prove their innocence, and they are sentenced to death, then I would probably kill myself. I don't find that a sin at all, I find that option honorable.

I could never, ever live with myself knowing that someone murdered my family member and got to live to tell about it, even if their life is spent in jail.

We have a federal prison right here in my backyard, and believe me, I see what that brings for us that live here. All their families move here to be closer to their loved one, don't have jobs, so of course they are on welfare and every other federal and state aid they can get. They don't take care of their housing, their kids cause petty crimes. So, for us taxpayers, it's not only paying for the damn criminal to be incarcerated, but we have to pay for their families, too. Pffft!!!

Susan, as a taxpayer, I am EXTREMELY tired of paying for these inmates like Charles Manson, to keep living and breathing. Let's be done with it, zap or inject the bastard and let's move on.

Ames, I would think with the evidence and proof that the killings continue, that Jerry's Anger Management classes didn't work. Go figure.

[kelly 0]

I always thought it was insane that before giving someone a lethal injection, they would wipe the arm with an alcohol swab. What is the purpose of that? To make sure they don't develop an injection-site infection for the last half hour of their lives?

I don't know exactly what I think about the death penalty. The "personal" is the "political", and therefore I personally know that I couldn't pull the switch and condemn another person to death, so I guess I would be on the side of against it. But I also don't believe that people should be locked away in prison for the rest of their lives and serve absolutely no purpose to society, all the while eating food, sleeping, showering, and receiving health care that is paid for by taxpayers. Taxpayers that could be struggling to have food, shelter, and health care for themselves. Its a very complicated issue.