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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from Arete411 in Wildflowers (all the rest) tracks?   
    Just thought I'd point out how similar my quick little All the Rest mock-up I did earlier this year ended up being to the official final cover artwork...:)

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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from Thelonious in Wildflowers (all the rest) tracks?   
    Just thought I'd point out how similar my quick little All the Rest mock-up I did earlier this year ended up being to the official final cover artwork...:)

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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from franferparraga in Wildflowers (all the rest) tracks?   
    Just thought I'd point out how similar my quick little All the Rest mock-up I did earlier this year ended up being to the official final cover artwork...:)

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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from franferparraga in Wildflowers (all the rest) tracks?   
    Don't know where this observation would be best placed, so I'll add it here. We know WF is a very personal and introspective album. I just realized that the concept of dreams and dreaming were a BIG theme in Tom's writing during this time (1992-1996). Never really noticed it before until a simple lyric from the new song struck me, and I started thinking about it (Have a dream on me). This idea of dreaming or desperately wanting something better in life. To hope for, happen, to manifest, to be in a better (different) place...

    - Wildflowers - the entire song is wistful and wishing (dreaming) for someone to be in a place where they feel free.
    - Good to be King - A long dream or daydream. "Excuse me if I have someplace in my mind, where I go time to time..."
    - There Goes Angela (Dream Away) - Feels so weird typing out the title of a new TP song!! "Have a dream on me."
    -YDKHIF - "I woke up in between a memory and a dream."
    - Dreams of Flying - apparently from 1994...See chorus
    - Hung Up and Overdue - We're overdue for a dream come true..."
    - Angel Dream - "I dreamed you..."
    - Wake up Time - "You follow your feelings, you follow your dreams..." Perhaps it was time to wake up from a certain dream and walk into another....
     
    Maybe this was intentional, or maybe a lot of was coming to him subconsciously. Just wanted to share!
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from Arete411 in Do people in your life listen to TPATH?   
    Yes and no. I have one friend, Charly, who is a huge fan. We talk and text about Tom a lot. He listens to TP Radio all the time (along with the Beatles station). He's in a little bar band and he plays TPATH covers all the time. I'll send him a "deep cut video of the day" for fun. I have a few other friends who dig TPATH music, but not as much as me. Mostly the Greatest Hits variety.
    When Tom passed away in 2017, my brother, who isn't a big fan (doesn't own any albums, but doesn't have anything against him either), said this to me: "You know, Tom Petty, he's not in anyone's Top 3, but he's in everyone's Top 10." I laughed, because he is in fact in my top 3, but I got what he meant by the comment. Everyone loved Tom Petty. Everyone thought he was cool. Everyone thought he rocked.
    I feel that most anyone and everyone liked him, certainly no one hated him, or had a strong reaction against his music. I mean, how many people have you ever heard say, "Man, that Tom Petty, I CAN'T STAND HIM...AND HIS MUSIC SUCKS." None here. Never heard it. He was just a likeable guy all around, you had no problem with him, and his songs were impossible not to enjoy in some way or another.
    It seemed that all over the internet, with articles, blogs, and comments on YT videos from regular people, that Tom's passing was a big deal. Even if people weren't huge fans, I think that many people realized the absolute loss to the music world, and the world at large. In a good way, Tom and his music were like wallpaper in their lives–always there, always dependable, quietly and consistently providing joy through several decades. Even if you weren't always aware of it. And it made you incredibly sad to realize that his presence was gone.
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from Mudcrutch in Do people in your life listen to TPATH?   
    Yes and no. I have one friend, Charly, who is a huge fan. We talk and text about Tom a lot. He listens to TP Radio all the time (along with the Beatles station). He's in a little bar band and he plays TPATH covers all the time. I'll send him a "deep cut video of the day" for fun. I have a few other friends who dig TPATH music, but not as much as me. Mostly the Greatest Hits variety.
    When Tom passed away in 2017, my brother, who isn't a big fan (doesn't own any albums, but doesn't have anything against him either), said this to me: "You know, Tom Petty, he's not in anyone's Top 3, but he's in everyone's Top 10." I laughed, because he is in fact in my top 3, but I got what he meant by the comment. Everyone loved Tom Petty. Everyone thought he was cool. Everyone thought he rocked.
    I feel that most anyone and everyone liked him, certainly no one hated him, or had a strong reaction against his music. I mean, how many people have you ever heard say, "Man, that Tom Petty, I CAN'T STAND HIM...AND HIS MUSIC SUCKS." None here. Never heard it. He was just a likeable guy all around, you had no problem with him, and his songs were impossible not to enjoy in some way or another.
    It seemed that all over the internet, with articles, blogs, and comments on YT videos from regular people, that Tom's passing was a big deal. Even if people weren't huge fans, I think that many people realized the absolute loss to the music world, and the world at large. In a good way, Tom and his music were like wallpaper in their lives–always there, always dependable, quietly and consistently providing joy through several decades. Even if you weren't always aware of it. And it made you incredibly sad to realize that his presence was gone.
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from Thelonious in Do people in your life listen to TPATH?   
    Yes and no. I have one friend, Charly, who is a huge fan. We talk and text about Tom a lot. He listens to TP Radio all the time (along with the Beatles station). He's in a little bar band and he plays TPATH covers all the time. I'll send him a "deep cut video of the day" for fun. I have a few other friends who dig TPATH music, but not as much as me. Mostly the Greatest Hits variety.
    When Tom passed away in 2017, my brother, who isn't a big fan (doesn't own any albums, but doesn't have anything against him either), said this to me: "You know, Tom Petty, he's not in anyone's Top 3, but he's in everyone's Top 10." I laughed, because he is in fact in my top 3, but I got what he meant by the comment. Everyone loved Tom Petty. Everyone thought he was cool. Everyone thought he rocked.
    I feel that most anyone and everyone liked him, certainly no one hated him, or had a strong reaction against his music. I mean, how many people have you ever heard say, "Man, that Tom Petty, I CAN'T STAND HIM...AND HIS MUSIC SUCKS." None here. Never heard it. He was just a likeable guy all around, you had no problem with him, and his songs were impossible not to enjoy in some way or another.
    It seemed that all over the internet, with articles, blogs, and comments on YT videos from regular people, that Tom's passing was a big deal. Even if people weren't huge fans, I think that many people realized the absolute loss to the music world, and the world at large. In a good way, Tom and his music were like wallpaper in their lives–always there, always dependable, quietly and consistently providing joy through several decades. Even if you weren't always aware of it. And it made you incredibly sad to realize that his presence was gone.
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from mikemono in Wildflowers (all the rest) tracks?   
    Don't know where this observation would be best placed, so I'll add it here. We know WF is a very personal and introspective album. I just realized that the concept of dreams and dreaming were a BIG theme in Tom's writing during this time (1992-1996). Never really noticed it before until a simple lyric from the new song struck me, and I started thinking about it (Have a dream on me). This idea of dreaming or desperately wanting something better in life. To hope for, happen, to manifest, to be in a better (different) place...

    - Wildflowers - the entire song is wistful and wishing (dreaming) for someone to be in a place where they feel free.
    - Good to be King - A long dream or daydream. "Excuse me if I have someplace in my mind, where I go time to time..."
    - There Goes Angela (Dream Away) - Feels so weird typing out the title of a new TP song!! "Have a dream on me."
    -YDKHIF - "I woke up in between a memory and a dream."
    - Dreams of Flying - apparently from 1994...See chorus
    - Hung Up and Overdue - We're overdue for a dream come true..."
    - Angel Dream - "I dreamed you..."
    - Wake up Time - "You follow your feelings, you follow your dreams..." Perhaps it was time to wake up from a certain dream and walk into another....
     
    Maybe this was intentional, or maybe a lot of was coming to him subconsciously. Just wanted to share!
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from Thelonious in Wildflowers (all the rest) tracks?   
    Don't know where this observation would be best placed, so I'll add it here. We know WF is a very personal and introspective album. I just realized that the concept of dreams and dreaming were a BIG theme in Tom's writing during this time (1992-1996). Never really noticed it before until a simple lyric from the new song struck me, and I started thinking about it (Have a dream on me). This idea of dreaming or desperately wanting something better in life. To hope for, happen, to manifest, to be in a better (different) place...

    - Wildflowers - the entire song is wistful and wishing (dreaming) for someone to be in a place where they feel free.
    - Good to be King - A long dream or daydream. "Excuse me if I have someplace in my mind, where I go time to time..."
    - There Goes Angela (Dream Away) - Feels so weird typing out the title of a new TP song!! "Have a dream on me."
    -YDKHIF - "I woke up in between a memory and a dream."
    - Dreams of Flying - apparently from 1994...See chorus
    - Hung Up and Overdue - We're overdue for a dream come true..."
    - Angel Dream - "I dreamed you..."
    - Wake up Time - "You follow your feelings, you follow your dreams..." Perhaps it was time to wake up from a certain dream and walk into another....
     
    Maybe this was intentional, or maybe a lot of was coming to him subconsciously. Just wanted to share!
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from TomFest in Never-heard song?!?   
    For sure. Agree with you on the b-sides and alternate versions. Where would they go?
    Are you sure Girl on LSD wasn't considered for inclusion with the original 25? I'm definitely not a fan of that song....
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from downsouth26 in Tom Petty Radio top 100.   
    100 is a pretty big list. I was thinking about what would be considered the top 10 most well known & popular TP songs with the general public. For the casual fan, the radio listener, occasional concert goer. Then contrasted with my own favorites. Here's what I came up with.
    GENERAL PUBLIC TOP 10
    1. Free Fallin'
    2. I Won't Back Down
    3. Don't Come Around Here No More (memorable video)
    4. Mary Jane's Last Dance
    5. Runnin' Down A Dream
    6. Refugee
    7. American Girl
    8. The Waiting
    9. Wildflowers (seems to get quoted a lot, and get the most tattoos...)
    10. Learning To Fly
    Gosh that was hard. Honorable mentions: Here Comes My Girl, Listen to Her Heart, Into The Great Wide Open, Breakdown, Even The Losers...
     
    MY TOP 10 (for today at least)...
    1. Walls (Circus)
    2. You Get Me High
    3. Surrender
    4. Kings Highway
    5. To Find A Friend
    6. Casa Dega
    7. Scare Easy
    8. Even The Losers
    9. Good To Be King
    10. Mary Jane's Last Dance
     
    How about yours? Go with your first take, from memory....and don't overthink it. There's no wrong answer
     
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from mikemono in Let's Try to Make Southern Accents Great Again   
    SIDE A
    1. Rebels
    2. Trailer (Playback Version)
    3. The Apartment Song (A Little Lonely Tonight) Feat. Stevie Nicks
    4. Spike
    5. Dogs On The Run
    SIDE B
    1. Don't Come Around Here No More
    2. Walkin' From The Fire
    3. Casa Dega
    4. The Best of Everything
    5. Southern Accents
     
     
     
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from Mudcrutch in Last Dance With Mudcrutch Farm....   
    Less than 2 weeks and counting! I wanted to try tossing out a handful of random/hodgepodge mini-topics out there, and see what sticks. Maybe one or more will spark or spur a few more conversations before it's finally time to move on. Feel free to jump in or add your own to this list.
    1. Take my skateboard, take my snowboard, take my wallet, take my car...
    We've heard that there's a 7-minute studio version of Breakdown. I would love to hear it some day, and wonder if it will ever be released. Hard to imagine there wouldn't be some extended, moody guitar work from Mike here.
    2. Not On Label
    I was checking again to see what WF vinyl is going for these days. Anyone ever seen this before? Unofficial Wildflowers LP - on cream vinyl
    https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/1112305204
    3.Interesting tidbit.
    Stan’s departure was announced on Oct. 20, 1994.
    https://www.thepettyarchives.com/archives/miscellany/newsletters/1995-february
    Notice that particular date?
    4. 400 Days in a gig in the South...
    I always thought it was odd/random that 400 film first became available on the Deluxe version of the Live Anthology. Why do you think the 400 Days doc was shelved in the first place? I also wonder if it was Tom’s idea to document the recording and subsequent tour of the Wildflowers album this way. Was it Martyn Atkins idea?
    5. Rare shows
    Which show would you rather hear:
    - 1993 Viper Room Opening Night
    - 1996 one-off show, where several yet-to-be-released STO songs were played
    6. Next Archive Release
    Which Box Set release do you want to see the most?
    - All the Rest
    - HB GH sessions 1993*
    - Fillmore Box set
    7. My Back Pages
    I've read Zollo book and Zanes book. But I haven't checked out any of these. Have you read them, and are they any good?
    - Rock and Roll Guardian https://www.amazon.com/Tom-Petty-Guardian-Rotondo-Paperback/dp/B014I8D506/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2C80BFBGIZLYS&dchild=1&keywords=tom+petty+rock+and+roll+guardian&qid=1595088537&sprefix=tom+petty+rock+and+%2Caps%2C258&sr=8-5
    - A Rock and Roll Life https://www.amazon.com/Tom-Petty-Rock-Roll-Life/dp/0980056187/ref=sr_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=tom+petty&qid=1595088662&s=books&sr=1-13
    - Definitely looking forward to this one: https://www.amazon.com/Somewhere-You-Feel-Free-Angeles/dp/1642935115/ref=sr_1_15?dchild=1&keywords=tom+petty&qid=1595088698&s=books&sr=1-15
    8. But what about Bugs?
    Has there been a tread dedicated yet to Alan "Bugs" Weidel? I think he was more than just a roadie. He basically rode shotgun with Tom throughout the duration of his whole career. He was with Tom when he saw his mom for the last time in the hospital. He drove Tom to his dad’s funeral. He ran the tape during the HB recording sessions. Can you imagine the perspective and insider stories he must have of Tom, his family and the band? Has he been featured or interviewed before on TP Radio? I think someone could conduct a multi-part podcast series where Bugs can talk about his life and time with Tom. The man behind the scenes who got a front row seat to it all.
     
    -----------------------------------------
    Bueller. Bueller....Anyone??
    *Rubin says the band recorded somewhere in the ballpark of 50 songs...!!
     
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from bonddm in Wildflowers (the album) and a bunch of other stuff   
    Beyond Stoked.
    In light of this, and the strange transmissions that are emanating from TomPetty.com....I wrote this poem:
    Static at first…
    Static at first…
    Now I’m picking up signal
    On the Supernatural Radio
    Tonight a Full Moon is hanging
    In the midnight sky
    And we’re going for a moonlight ride
    Can you feel it?
    There’s Something in the Air
    It’s just the normal noises in here…
    Harmonicas on the back porch
    Back by the tall pines and power lines
    Music notes rising, intertwined
    With the sounds of the night–
    Werewolf howling in the distance
    An Indian shoots out the light
    The sound man is ready to capture all the magic
    Can you feel the Mojo & studio vibes?
    Bugs has enough tape
    While Rubin is twisting the knobs
    The first stop on the journey
    Is not far from the Crystal River
    We’re heading to the Cabin Down Below
    Hit the last number and walk to the road
    Oh Baby Doll!
    What a ride it will be–
    One with an old friend
    He’s been Waiting For Tonight
    Your ultimate Highway Companion
    So turn the radio on soft and low
    Because it’ll be Time to Move On
    When the sun comes up tomorrow.
    ----------
     
     
     
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from Big Blue Sky in Wildflowers (the album) and a bunch of other stuff   
    Beyond Stoked.
    In light of this, and the strange transmissions that are emanating from TomPetty.com....I wrote this poem:
    Static at first…
    Static at first…
    Now I’m picking up signal
    On the Supernatural Radio
    Tonight a Full Moon is hanging
    In the midnight sky
    And we’re going for a moonlight ride
    Can you feel it?
    There’s Something in the Air
    It’s just the normal noises in here…
    Harmonicas on the back porch
    Back by the tall pines and power lines
    Music notes rising, intertwined
    With the sounds of the night–
    Werewolf howling in the distance
    An Indian shoots out the light
    The sound man is ready to capture all the magic
    Can you feel the Mojo & studio vibes?
    Bugs has enough tape
    While Rubin is twisting the knobs
    The first stop on the journey
    Is not far from the Crystal River
    We’re heading to the Cabin Down Below
    Hit the last number and walk to the road
    Oh Baby Doll!
    What a ride it will be–
    One with an old friend
    He’s been Waiting For Tonight
    Your ultimate Highway Companion
    So turn the radio on soft and low
    Because it’ll be Time to Move On
    When the sun comes up tomorrow.
    ----------
     
     
     
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from downsouth26 in Wildflowers (the album) and a bunch of other stuff   
    Beyond Stoked.
    In light of this, and the strange transmissions that are emanating from TomPetty.com....I wrote this poem:
    Static at first…
    Static at first…
    Now I’m picking up signal
    On the Supernatural Radio
    Tonight a Full Moon is hanging
    In the midnight sky
    And we’re going for a moonlight ride
    Can you feel it?
    There’s Something in the Air
    It’s just the normal noises in here…
    Harmonicas on the back porch
    Back by the tall pines and power lines
    Music notes rising, intertwined
    With the sounds of the night–
    Werewolf howling in the distance
    An Indian shoots out the light
    The sound man is ready to capture all the magic
    Can you feel the Mojo & studio vibes?
    Bugs has enough tape
    While Rubin is twisting the knobs
    The first stop on the journey
    Is not far from the Crystal River
    We’re heading to the Cabin Down Below
    Hit the last number and walk to the road
    Oh Baby Doll!
    What a ride it will be–
    One with an old friend
    He’s been Waiting For Tonight
    Your ultimate Highway Companion
    So turn the radio on soft and low
    Because it’ll be Time to Move On
    When the sun comes up tomorrow.
    ----------
     
     
     
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from Mr Timba in Wildflowers (the album) and a bunch of other stuff   
    Beyond Stoked.
    In light of this, and the strange transmissions that are emanating from TomPetty.com....I wrote this poem:
    Static at first…
    Static at first…
    Now I’m picking up signal
    On the Supernatural Radio
    Tonight a Full Moon is hanging
    In the midnight sky
    And we’re going for a moonlight ride
    Can you feel it?
    There’s Something in the Air
    It’s just the normal noises in here…
    Harmonicas on the back porch
    Back by the tall pines and power lines
    Music notes rising, intertwined
    With the sounds of the night–
    Werewolf howling in the distance
    An Indian shoots out the light
    The sound man is ready to capture all the magic
    Can you feel the Mojo & studio vibes?
    Bugs has enough tape
    While Rubin is twisting the knobs
    The first stop on the journey
    Is not far from the Crystal River
    We’re heading to the Cabin Down Below
    Hit the last number and walk to the road
    Oh Baby Doll!
    What a ride it will be–
    One with an old friend
    He’s been Waiting For Tonight
    Your ultimate Highway Companion
    So turn the radio on soft and low
    Because it’ll be Time to Move On
    When the sun comes up tomorrow.
    ----------
     
     
     
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from High Grass Dog in Wildflowers (the album) and a bunch of other stuff   
    Beyond Stoked.
    In light of this, and the strange transmissions that are emanating from TomPetty.com....I wrote this poem:
    Static at first…
    Static at first…
    Now I’m picking up signal
    On the Supernatural Radio
    Tonight a Full Moon is hanging
    In the midnight sky
    And we’re going for a moonlight ride
    Can you feel it?
    There’s Something in the Air
    It’s just the normal noises in here…
    Harmonicas on the back porch
    Back by the tall pines and power lines
    Music notes rising, intertwined
    With the sounds of the night–
    Werewolf howling in the distance
    An Indian shoots out the light
    The sound man is ready to capture all the magic
    Can you feel the Mojo & studio vibes?
    Bugs has enough tape
    While Rubin is twisting the knobs
    The first stop on the journey
    Is not far from the Crystal River
    We’re heading to the Cabin Down Below
    Hit the last number and walk to the road
    Oh Baby Doll!
    What a ride it will be–
    One with an old friend
    He’s been Waiting For Tonight
    Your ultimate Highway Companion
    So turn the radio on soft and low
    Because it’ll be Time to Move On
    When the sun comes up tomorrow.
    ----------
     
     
     
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from Mudcrutch in Rank your favorite Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers albums in order of preference!!!   
    Studio album ranking
    1. Wildflowers
    2. She’s The One
    3. You’re Gonna Get It!
    4. TPATH
    5. Full Moon Fever
    6. DTT
    7. Into The Great Wide Open
    8. Hypnotic Eye
    9. Echo
    10. Highway Companion
    11. Mojo
    12. Long After Dark
    13. The Waiting
    14. Southern Accents
    15. The Last DJ
    16. Let Me Up
    Expanded List/Bonus Round…to include Mudcrutch, box sets, live albums, GH, etc.
    Why? Because there are some TPATH releases that I enjoy (no, LOVE) more than some of the studio albums.
    1. Wildflowers
    2. Playback - Disc 6
    3. Playback - Disc 5
    4. Mudcrutch
    5. Greatest Hits*
    6. She’s The One
    7. The Live Anthology
    8. An American Treasure
    ….
    All the rest (starting at #3 above. And I would have to put Mudcrutch 2 high up in this mix, 'cuz that record is also EXCELLENT.)
    *Yes, 1993’s Greatest Hits will always hold a sentimental place in my heart. Even though I’ve heard each song 1000 times or more, and I only return to it on occasion, because I surely WORE IT OUT, I still love and cherish this collection. As a hardcore TP fan, you sort of take GH for granted, and dismiss it because you know all about Casa Dega and the other deep cuts and the residencies and you’re a card carrying member of the Mudcrutch Farm, etc. and you’re a mini encyclopedia of “real stuff” the casual Greatest Hits listener will never know anything about. Shame, really. But man, what a Greatest Hits package it is!!! A Greatest Hits that eats other Greatest Hits for breakfast. A benchmark, that only the Beatles and maybe a few others can possibly top. I’ve always loved the cover too…with that slight warped photo and colored band faces that give it a psychedelic vibe…the band hanging out behind the board, smoking, let you know that they’re just dangerous enough…that they do in fact embody the full spirit of Rock and Roll…1968 meets 1993…Something In the Air indeed. I bought that puppy on cassette in the fall of ’93. A teenage mind was blown. A fan for life.
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from Thelonious in Old & new interviews with Tom & the Heartbreakers   
    On the moment the Heartbreakers were birthed in the studio:
    "We were stone broke, and crazy, and that was that." - Stan Lynch
    No one talked, no one asked or tried to figure how it happened, they just made "that sound"....
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from TheSameOldDrew in Old & new interviews with Tom & the Heartbreakers   
    On the moment the Heartbreakers were birthed in the studio:
    "We were stone broke, and crazy, and that was that." - Stan Lynch
    No one talked, no one asked or tried to figure how it happened, they just made "that sound"....
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from Big Blue Sky in Old & new interviews with Tom & the Heartbreakers   
    On the moment the Heartbreakers were birthed in the studio:
    "We were stone broke, and crazy, and that was that." - Stan Lynch
    No one talked, no one asked or tried to figure how it happened, they just made "that sound"....
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    RedfordCowboy got a reaction from dollardime in Tom and God   
    Did Tom Petty believe in God?
    Well, that’s a complicated one. Not unlike any of us - as our views, understanding, or relationship with God tends to be.
    While it’s basically impossible to make a judgement (pun intended) on anyone’s faith, I don’t think Tom suffered fools. I don’t think he had a high tolerance for inauthenticity or hypocrisy...and yet we’re all hypocrites at the end of the day, to varying degrees. Simply because none of us live out our highest ideals, values and beliefs fully 100% of the time, do we? So I tend to give more grace to people when it comes to this area of hypocrisy. But that’s not really the point here. I will say that I enjoy finding God in places where you normally wouldn’t expect Him to be or think He’d show up…
    I’ll examine this question in 3 parts: Tom’s upbringing, Tom’s friends, and lastly, Tom’s lyrics. And you might find it interesting, pointless or total rubbish. That’s OK.
    Part 1: Upbringing
    First and foremost, Tom was a southerner. I think knowing this is important to understanding where Tom was coming from with God, and whatever beliefs he may or may not’ve had. One could assume that any foundational understanding or perceptions of God will be filtered through the lens of the South. And the south, when it comes to religion, is a somewhat jacked up. It is a twisted, mysterious, perplexing, paradoxical, fascinating, and mystifying geography when it comes to God, the flesh and the Spirit. It’s one weird place. If you want to see a bizarre and beautiful documentary about this, check out Jim White’s film, “Searching for the Wrong-Eyed Jesus.” It’s filled with strange southern characters, dimly lit honky tonk bars, pool halls, and backwoods Pentecostal churches. Watch it, you might be enthralled. The music is awesome, and I find it hard to believe that places like this actually exist on the map. I think Tom saw glimpses of this world in Florida…
    It’s the classic duality of the south. You repent on Sunday morning for your sins on Saturday night.
    I read that his parents taught Sunday School at their little church in Gainesville. I can’t imagine Tom showing much interest in going, and perhaps being forced (dragged?) to go at an early age.
    During the Heartbreakers 1987 Rock and Roll Caravan Tour, Tom went to Jerusalem. Upon touring the city with Roger McQuinn, and after seeing the wailing wall with a tour guide, he states, “Ten years of Sunday school, and this guys tells me more in 5 minutes.”  The guide says that “Music is holy,” to which McQuinn agrees. I tend to agree as well. I think Tom has mentioned somewhere that he sees the band as a holy thing(?). 10 years of Sunday School was it for Tom, then around age around age 11, his main religion becomes the Church of Elvis Presley. His infamous encounter in 1961 with the King is widely known and well documented. From here, rock and roll devotion would take over. And we’re all lucky for this as a result.
    When then the 60’s happened, and the subsequent experimentation with music, drugs, freedom, rebellion, girls, etc. I imagine Tom probably put God on the shelf for a while during this period. Even going as far into the 70’s and early 80’s well, as he was experiencing his first waves of fame and success. His job, lifestyle and trajectory doesn’t fit nicely into the pews of a small southern congregational church. Also safe to say that living in L.A. and being wrapped in the music industry probably didn’t encourage any type of faith, belief, or expression about God. It would be more of the opposite that would be celebrated and/or accepted. Indeed, the Heartbreakers of the 70’s and 80’s were a wild bunch…
    Part 2: Friends
    But then, Tom sure had some popular friends, and who knows what ways they spoke into his life? Or what types of conversations they had in private, as friends.
    1. George Harrison
    One of Tom’s closest friends, and fellow Wilbury bandmate. George, the quiet Beatle, was deeply spiritual, as we all know. In the 1960’s, he was introduced to yogis, meditation, and Hinduism, and remained wholly committed for the rest of his life, embracing the Hare Krishna tradition. It’s interesting to note that when Tom passed, there was a small family memorial service held at the Self-Realization Fellowship Lake Shrine, near L.A. The temple and meditation garden was the same place for the funeral of George Harrison, who died in 2001. I wonder if Tom had a specific wish for this, or if the family chose it…
    2. Bob Dylan
    Another fellow Wilbury. Just try to untangle the faith and spirituality of Bob Dylan, I dare you. A mystery wrapped in an enigma, Dylan caused quite the stir when he released three explicitly evangelical Christian albums between the years 1979-1981. Benmont played on the final album of the “trilogy”, 1981’s Shot of Love. Who knows where Bob stood in these matters afterwards, and when he was in a band with Tom? Yet, in every interview I’ve ever read or watched, Bob’s never afraid to address or speak his mind on God.
    3. Rick Rubin
    A hippie-mystic-guru-meditation-music lover type of guy. All over the map in some ways, but appears to be centered and grounded in others. The decade of American Recordings he did with Cash is some of the best music ever created, IMHO. Having a discussion once about communion, Rubin informed Cash that he had never taken communion before. Surprised, Cash invited and insisted they partake together. Which they did, nearly every day, even over the phone if it wasn’t possible to do it in person.
    4. Johnny Cash
    Cash was a great man of faith (and a walking contradiction, as Kristofferson says). Cash was friends with saints (Billy Graham) and sinners (the rest of us). To be in his presence was to be in awe, and slightly afraid. An artist recognized for his authenticity, and his marriage to June was something to behold. Cash and Tom became close friends in the 1990’s, during the making of Unchained. Tom speaks highly of this time, the recording of this album, and his love for Johnny and June.
    I have to believe that each of these people had an influence on Tom - his faith outlook, his beliefs, his spirituality - during different points & turns of his life. Close friends tend to do that.
    In 1996, I read a speech he gave to a crowd of students at UCLA, upon receiving the "George and Ira Gershwin Award For Lifetime Musical Achievement." (you can find it in the summer 1996 TPATH Fan Club Newsletter). This was in the midst of recording with Johnny Cash and Carl Perkins:
    “At the end of the session he (Carl) took me aside and he said, 'You know, I really like you, Tom.' "And I said, 'Well, what are you getting at, Carl?' "And Carl said, 'I don't know. I just feel that tonight with us playing here that there was a lot of God in the room.' And I looked at him and he said, 'You know, I don't know Tom, if you believe in heaven but it's really nice thinking even if you don't.' "And I said, 'Well, Carl, I just hope that I get there.' "And it really touched me what he said -- he said, 'I really believe all us boys that kinda knocked around on those guitars and drums and things and went through life and were pretty good people and just tried to play a little music and stayed out of people's way -- maybe had an occasional joint -- we may have raised a little too much hell at times, but still found the time to help people whenever we could. I believe that one day we're gonna all sit around somewhere and play music like we did tonight.' And he said, 'When you get there, Tom, I'm gonna give you the best guitar God's got.' “And that really touched me. I want to tell you all that whatever your concept of God is, I believe that He writes the songs and it's just sent down through me, you know, and other songwriters. I feel like a receiver -- and tonight I'm really grateful to receive this award.”
    He sounds completely sincere and abundantly grateful for the gifts and life that God has given him. “God writes the songs.” Which brings us to…
    Part 3: Lyrics
    Let’s look at a few instances where any concepts of God popped up in his lyrics. These are just a few that come to mind, for the sake of this musing.
    1. “Oh baby, don't it feel like heaven right now” and “You take it on faith, you take it the heart, the waiting is the hardest part.” (1981) A stretch? Sure…
    2a. “I was born a rebel, down in Dixie on a Sunday Morning.” (1985)
    2b. Southern Accents, the song (1985)
    There's a dream I keep having, where my momma comes to me
    And kneels down over by the window, and says a prayer for me
    Got my own way of praying, but every one's begun
    With a southern accent, where I come from
    Maybe the most intimate and personal Tom has been, lyrically. He didn’t really start to address or even hint at God in his songs until around the time of Southern Accents (the album). He had grown up a bit, and lost his mother a few years earlier. This had an effect on him, and now he was ready to get reflective in his writing. The song becomes a beautiful southern prayer of sorts.
    This was also a time when Tom was using cocaine, staying up all night, addicted to cigarettes and Coca Cola, had self-admitted anger issues, as well as relationship/marital problems. A time when TPATH goes out on the road with the largest Confederate flag ever sewn together as a backdrop to their stage show. Complete with the Rebelettes, a group of female back up singers. Again, the twisted duality of the Southern thing. The wrestling with the flesh and the spirit. Having it both ways. (For a deep dive on the duality of the south, listen to “Southern Rock Opera” by the Drive By Truckers. I have to think this was a more complete and realized “Southern Accents”)
    3. “Gypsies at home watching Jerry Falwell on TV
    Might mean somethin' to you, it ain't nothin' to me” (1985)
    The mid-1980’s were a rough time for televangelists, to put it mildly.
    4. “You can stand me up at the gates of hell, but I won’t back down.” (1989) Impossible not to include!
    5. With “I can only thank God it was not too late”, a line he repeats multiple times. Ah, the lovely Angel Dream (1996). And it sounds sincere, like he’s finally found salvation in the form of love.
    6. “They love it (rock and roll) like you love Jesus,
    It does the same thing to their souls” (2002)
    Well, we know that Tom understood the devotion part of it. He knows both have the potential to save your soul.
    And yet, still I get the feeling that Tom would rather worship at the altar of Elvis Presley, Little Richard, Chet Atkins, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis (cousin of Jimmy Swaggart!!) and James Brown. And….what do all of these artists have in common? Many, if not all, grew up in the Southern Pentecostal Church. Just food for thought. You can’t ever really get away from it, once it’s in your system. Bruce Springsteen frequently mentions that he is still carrying and grappling with his upbringing in the Catholic Church, not able to shake growing up in the shadow of St. Rose of Lima Church in Freehold, NJ. I personally think it makes for a more compelling artistry, and I appreciate folks who don’t shy away from it. I’m thinking of artists like Cash, U2, Leonard Cohen, Cat Stevens/Yusef, Lenny Kravitz, Lauryn Hill, Kings of Leon, Kanye West, Marvin Gaye, where I find strong undertones of God, faith and spirituality in their music. There’s probably a hundred more we could mention. Sometimes this is the best church…
    Then there’s latter day Petty.
    7. Playing Dumb, a bonus track from Hypnotic Eye (2014). A scathing indictment about the recent (and appalling) scandals that have have rocked the Catholic Church.
    “I’m still throwin' up some of that food my mind was fed
    Well let's light a candle for every kid
    For every soul that was done away with
    For every confession that wasn't on the level
    For every man of God that lives with hidden devils.”
    Ouch. Say like it is…
    8. Finally, I forgive It All (2016)
    A hymn of sorts. Fact or fiction? Who is his niece Lauren? Was this song directed to people or events from his past, someone like Jane? Was he relieving himself of any burdens or bitterness he was carrying that comes from unforgiveness? Speculation, yes, but you never know.
    Random Thoughts
    - I’ve believe I’ve seen Tom wear a cross around his neck in photos through the years. Also, during the 2016 Mudcrutch tour, I remember seeing a photo of Tom wearing a black vest, with a huge cross stitching on the back of the vest. Not saying anything specific, just mentioning it. It might just mean that he’s not afraid to wear/display a cross.
    - At the end of many concerts, particularly near the end of his career, Tom’s final words from the stage were often, “Thank you, God bless you.” Yes, a lot of artists say this, but you can mean it too. I tend to think that Tom got more grateful with each passing year for the incredible gift and life he was given with his band.
    Again, “Let me be clear” (in best Obama voice), I’m not making any conclusions whatsoever. Just observations. Do I think TP knew or believed in God? Don’t know. It’s too personal. Maybe even Dana Petty and Mike Campbell don’t know where Tom stood with these things.
    Tom’s relationship with God was complex, contradictory, nuanced and ongoing. Like each of ours is.
    Which brings me back to Part 1. If I were to poetically sum it up, I would use this line from Rebels: “I was born a rebel, down in Dixie on a Sunday Morning.”
    Thanks for reading!
     

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    Close your eyes and imagine, with me, if Tom Petty reconnecting with Rick Rubin during the All The Rest project a few years ago. And Tom casually mentions to Rick how much he loves Cash's first album on American Recordings. "You know, Rick, that first album you did with Cash was really special." (starts singing Delia, Oh Delia...) They both pause and look at each other...as if thinking the same thing at the exact moment. Rick jumps in first. "Holy crap. Let's do it...WITH YOU! We'll follow the exact format that I did with Johnny. You come sit on my couch, just you and your guitar. You can play any song you want, and I'll just hit the record album. And we'll put the album out just like that." Tom nods, delivers that sly smile of his.
    Now, close your eyes a little more and imagine the album coming out like this:
    Tom Petty: Troubadour (American Recordings, 2020)
    Tom Petty: vocals, guitar, piano, harmonica
    1. King's Highway
    2. Wildflowers
    3. Free Fallin'
    4. Yer So Bad
    5. Square One
    6. Walls
    7. Trailer
    8. Orphan Of The Storm
    9. To Find A Friend
    10. The Waiting
    11. The Ballad Of Easy Rider
    12. Southern Accents
     
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    Excuse me if I have some place in my mind...where I go time to time...
     
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