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  1. RedfordCowboy

    The Double LP That Tom Never Had

    The Brown Album...no. The Honey Brown Album...nope. Maybe the Tan Album. Or....better yet... Wait for it.... . . . . . . THE WHEAT ALBUM. get it?
  2. RedfordCowboy

    Maxwell House

    Again, it might not have been just the taste of Maxwell coffee that Tom liked, but all the memories and experiences back in Gainesville that were connected to it. That diner he stumbled upon brought him back to a simpler time, a special moment. A season of life & youthfulness that only happens once. And he wanted to 'savor' that again. And the professional Bunn installation at home probably helped recreate the cheap diner coffee experience perfectly. And it probably didn't taste too bad (maybe the rest of us don't know how to make Maxwell taste good, ha). But how could Warren Zanes even agree that TP's coffee tasted better than Starbucks, every time, to the last drop (pun intended). My wife and I love coffee...even classic hole-in-the-wall diner coffee in the small mugs. When the server comes by every 3 minutes and asks if you need a refill. Ahhh the simple pleasures of life. Since reading that article, we've even looked into getting a Bunn Automatic Coffee Maker as joint Christmas present. Maybe it's the nostalgia experience. Maybe we're just overboard and weird.
  3. RedfordCowboy

    This is a question.

    One could make an argument that Tom was just trying to find his voice on the first album. When I think of those first two records, they do sound different compared to the rest of his catalog. They seem more youthful, raw, unpolished...in a good way. I love the sound of those two records! The band has said that they were just figuring out how to make albums at the time, and they really didn’t know what they were doing in the studio. And I agree, Tom’s voice sounds different and a lot of those songs. I think that some of the charm with American girl, the way it sounds, his phrasing, inflection, and the way he sings it. I think Breakdown is an amazing song for a first album. like that one came out of nowhere. Actually, that’s the first thing I noticed, when I heard Surrender ‘77, first track on an American Treasure. I noticed how unique or different (youthful) Tom’s vocal sounded on the track. And it instantly reminded me of the early Heartbreakers sound, which I love. Think about Springsteen‘s first two albums as well, Greetings and the E Street Shuffle-they sound nothing like Born to Run. That album is a quantum leap for Bruce’s sound and singing voice… Just thinking about thunder road alone and that vocal “performance.” Maybe the same could be said for Tom… And how the Heartbreakers really came into their own by the third album. Just like BTR, Damn the Torpedoes was a quantum leap for the band.
  4. RedfordCowboy

    Photo of the Day IV: Don't it feel like Heaven

    Tom lookin' boss.
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    Cool tune...I hear a touch of the Last DJ in that one.
  6. RedfordCowboy

    Tom Petty called...

    Hey, do you think this band was inspired by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers at all? http://grandcanyonband.com/ Listen to their single "Standing in the Shadows" It's like TP and Stevie collaborated on a tune in 2018...or 1982... Not that I'm complaining...I think they sound pretty good...the Petty sound will continue to inspire many...
  7. RedfordCowboy

    Wildflowers BOX set and Filmore release potential!

    Wildflowers was released 24 years ago today! Bring on the deluxe box set baby....or shall I say, baby doll!!
  8. RedfordCowboy

    My New Book-Tom Petty And me

    Way to go, Jon! Awesome quote from Stan. Thanks for being a champion of the band!!
  9. RedfordCowboy

    The firing of Stan Lynch

    https://www.moderndrummer.com/article/february-1984-stan-lynch-heartbreaking-rhythm/ Very cool and insightful interview with Stan Lynch from the Southern Accents era. You really get a sense of him as a person. He discusses his relationship with the band (and vice versa), his drumming rig, singing and playing, pre-show & tour warm ups, and how he's quit the band during the recording of every album. At times, he comes across like big immature teenager, and at other times quite thoughtful and respectful. Always honest. If he didn't like the music, it's style, direction, or disagreed on anything, he was out. He'd leave. You can see the undercurrent of strain it created in the group. Probably exasperated Tom. It's clear he had/has a big personality, was a fun loving guy who was taking a big bite out of life. Looking back, it some times would appear it was 4 against 1....and vice versa. Stan is a good singer. I think he rocks when he gets a turn to cut loose and sing in concert. Howie was a great singer. And let's not get started on Mike. I often wonder if Tom was under-utilizing the Heartbreakers over the years? Semi-related - The fact that he basically told Mike he couldn't put out an album because it would mess up the "Heartbreakers Brand". That's kinda lame to me. He comes across as threatened. I don't think people would think or see it as a Heartbreakes project, or even close to it. We actually like to keep these things separate in our minds and enjoy both for what they are. For example, Carl Broemel, guitarist for My Morning Jacket. He puts out solo albums which are awesome, and then there's his main band, the "main gig." I go see & enjoy both for what they are. Was Tom that worried or intimidated about it? IMHO, Mike served Tom faithfully since day one. I wish Tom couldn't let his friend shine, and give him some glory, as it were. Be excited and supportive of him, give him his blessing, etc. Ya know?
  10. RedfordCowboy

    The Double LP That Tom Never Had

    I love double albums. How about you? Do they hold a special place with you? What is it about double LP’s that make them so unique and special? Is it because they’re simply more rare, and not everyone attempts them? Or because the label frowns upon them, wanting to spread them out into separate releases? When they are done right, with enough inspired material, double albums easily achieve epic status. Maybe it’s the fact that you get an over-abundance of music from the artist. As if one record wasn’t enough from your favorite band, you get two! It’s a feat on multiple levels.Surely it must be hard to capture THAT MANY good songs during one recording period, I imagine. Add to that a concept album and it's even more impressive. I’d like to think that the artist feels extremely inspired for this season, that they are in such a creative head space, that the songs keep flowing out. I love hearing when an artist says, “Yeah, we probably cut 40-50 songs, and had to pare them down…” The White Album. Exile on Main St. The Wall. Mellon Collie. Physical Graffiti. Which got me thinking. Tom never got his legendary double album…and we know that he did chase after it on more than one occasion. How badly do you think he wanted to do one? Do you think it was on his bucket list? On that topic, I wanted to investigate the at least 3 times that Tom almost arrived at/realized/released a double LP. 1. Southern Accents We wanted this one so bad. I love how we’ve discussed this album at length on threads here; imagining, re-imagining, inventing, analyzing, and proposing the proper final track list. Tom’s concept album of the American South, what it could of been still entices us to this day! Let Me Up (I’ve Had Enough) What? A potential double LP? I was unaware of this until I read the liner notes in An American Treasure. Tom said he booked studio time for Dylan, who turns out wasn’t ready, so the Heartbreakers went in instead, and ended up in there for a month. 30 days later, they had enough songs in the can for a double album! Tom even said it was shaping up to be something like their Exile on Main St. Now, I don’t know about you, but that’s quite the intriguing statement. I dare anyone here to make an a imaginary double LP track list for Let Me Up! (just like we did for SA). Why? Cuz I’d love to see that. Are there enough songs from that time period to cull from? What would the Heartbreakers version of Exile sound like? 3. Wildflowers Perhaps the closest TP release to becoming a true double album. We know the songs were there. Wildflowers- a knock out collection of his best material from that time, continually recognized as a fertile period of song writing. We know he spent 2 years crafting away at the songs for this record, and wow, was he in a sweet spot. How many songs were recorded? Thirty? More? And still no double album, as Tom originally intended. I wonder if it came out as planned, if Wildflowers would be in the pantheon of the all time great double albums? I think so…… Furthermore, with Wildflowers and beyond, Tom packed several of the HB albums with tracks, reaching 15 songs on several occasions. She’s the One: 15 songs. Echo: 15. Mojo: 15. Just a few more songs, and you’re ready for a double disc. Making me think that maybe Tom really wanted to do one.... ---------------- *Side note: I know that Pack up the Plantation was a double, but I’m speaking strictly in terms of official studio album releases. Besides, nearly all of the Live albums from that era of putting out live documents were double records. They almost had to be.
  11. I just noticed something about these Complete Studio Albums Box Sets (Vol. 1 and Vol. 2). Howie's not pictured on either of the main band photos they chose for the box set covers. Anybody else notice that? They choose the original lineup, circa 1977, for the main image on Vol. 1, before Howie. They choose a latter-day image of the band, circa 2010 (Mojo era) for Vol. 2, after Howie. Perhaps an oversight, but still kinda sad, when you think that he was a Heartbreaker for 21 years (1982 up until the time of his death). That's even longer than Stan was in the band. Plus, when you think about how he didn't appear on the Echo cover (yes, by his own doing) it's just another blow. It's almost as if Howie became a ghost member of the band. Slowly being erased or less recognized over time (Don't Fade On Me). Like Tom always said, I miss his beautiful harmony vocals alongside his. In fact, besides Mike's ever-present guitar virtuosity (he never plays a wasted note), I think Howie's harmonies might be one of my favorite things about the HB's magical sound. I guess this is just a little bit of a call out, a shot of recognition, a thank you to Howie for his wonderful, often overlooked contribution to the Heartbreakers.
  12. RedfordCowboy

    If you like the Echo album & tour go here

    Found a rare Interview from the Echo era. Good read! https://www.oxfordamerican.org/magazine/item/1327-tom-petty
  13. RedfordCowboy

    Southern Accents: What could have been

    That's a nice looking track list for SA, jtx84! The only thing I would add would be include "The Apartment Song" on your list...I like it when each side is balanced on an LP Shelter is right, we exhausted the SA "what could've been concept album" in that thread. I always wished it could've been the double album opus, but the songs just weren't there to fill it out. Wasn't meant to be, but I dig your SA version....
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    Tributes and covers from peers and writers

    NIL DESPERANDUM http://www.sebreephoto.com/copied-blog/2017/12/8/tom-petty-1950-2017-nil-desperandum Robert Sebree got a front row seat of a big chunk of Tom's life...looks like a period from around 1989 up to his marriage with Dana, circa 2001. During that time, he shot some of my all-time favorite photos of Tom, specifically during the Wildflowers and STO era - 1994-1996. Him and Martyn Atkins were his main photo/video/art director guys. Could you imagine being able to capture Tom and the HB in the studio, during recording sessions...oh to be a fly on the wall. Just look at those photos, man!!
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    Tributes and covers from peers and writers