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  1. Would geography change the gravity of my comment; that being Danny Roberts is ‘a small man with a big mouth, etc.’? And, are you suggesting I should be offended at being American? And, are you always this indiscreet about divulging that which you think you know about people’s personal information, even though they expressly choose not to divulge it (or have it divulged) upon registering? Danny Roberts can go bark up a tree. He doesn’t intimidate anyone. But, his pathetic, juvenile threat DOES speak to his character and juvenile delinquent behavior. And, that’s why he never ‘fit in’ as an ‘integral’ member of Mudcrutch. I’m certain Tom Petty would have given Danny Roberts the boot had Danny Roberts not pulled the pin, himself.
  2. Small man with a big mouth. That's why you are where you are, today, and Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers are where they are, today, roadie!
  3. Don't you mean Danny (I'll NEVER Be A Heartbreaker) Roberts ?

  4. heads-up...danny (wish i were a heartbeaker) roberts is back !

  5. By Jim Harrington MediaNews Staff Article Created: 04/15/2008 06:44:09 AM PDT Mudcrutch is not just Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers by another name. It's more like Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers minus all the really good songs. Imagine going to a Heartbreakers show and having the band only play from "The Last DJ" or "Highway Companion" and you get a sense for what it was like to attend the Mudcrutch concert on Monday night at the Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium. It'll likely be the same story when Petty's pre-Heartbreakers outfit, which he's recently resurrected from more than 30 years in the grave, performs Wednesday and Thursday at the Fillmore in San Francisco. It's understandable, and even commendable, that Petty wants Mudcrutch to be its own entity, not just a cover band that plays Heartbreakers hits. If he's not going to play the fan favorites, though, he's got to give the crowd something else worthwhile in its place. Unfortunately, that didn't happen in Santa Cruz. Petty played all 14 of the tracks from Mudcrutch's forthcoming eponymous debut, due in stores April 29, yet none of those selections was spectacular and very few were even memorable. Mudcrutch did toss in some fun cover songs — such as Dave Dudley's "Six Days on the Road" and Roger McGuinn's "Lover of the Bayou" — yet those renditions never rose above the basic bar-band level. While the Heartbreakers always come across like a well-oiled machine, Mudcrutch definitely had some sludge in its engine as it opened the show with a version of the old folk standard "Shady Grove" that never really came together. From there, the band — which also features Heartbreakers Mike Campbell on guitar and Benmont Tench on keyboards, as well as guitarist Tom Leadon and drummer Randall Marsh — mostly delivered the type of unremarkable country-rock that far too many Flying Burrito Brothers clones churned out in the '70s. On the plus side, Petty was clearly enjoying the reunion and that translated into one of his more personable performances. Also, some of the new Mudcrutch lyrics — such as the great line from "Scare Easy," "Yeah, I'm a loser at the top of my game" — rank among the best that Petty has penned in years. Yet, those elements couldn't compensate for the fact that this band just didn't gel all that well or that the crowd was forced to hear Leadon sing the dreadful "Queen of the Go Go Dancers." Thus, what the audience was left with was the novelty factor. It was novel to get the chance to see Petty's pre-Heartbreakers band, which lasted from 1970 to 1975 and only released one single. It was novel to hear Petty play bass, instead of his regular guitar. And it was novel for fans to finally meet Petty's old buddies Leadon and Marsh. In the end, however, those novelties weren't enough. Media News
  6. P.S. Danny Roberts got the recognition he deserved. The same amount of recognition as the notice he gave the band of his intention to split.
  7. What more IS there to say? Tom Petty acknowledges Danny Roberts was with the band for a few months, from late '72 or early '73 to a few months into '74, contrary to Danny Roberts' version of a 3 year stint (implying he was with the band a "full" 3 years). The "official" band (upon signing a contract) disbanded in 1974, before it even got off the ground. And, contrary to Danny Roberts' recollection that the band kept calling him to return, Tom Petty states: Danny…just split. He didn't think we were going to make it. He left, and we never heard from him again until recently. It is my opinion Danny Roberts is making a big fuss because, firstly, he doesn’t like the way he was represented in the book, Conversations. That is evident from his own account where he tried to make a scene at the Gainesville concert: When I went over to see the guys last year at their Homecoming Show that's a major portion of the DVD, I brought Tom's book, "Conversations With Tom Petty" with me, along with a black Sharpie. I finally found Jim Lenahan, who got me in back-stage. I went back to my car and got the book, and hid it in the bushes outside the loading area. After I saw Mike and Benmont for about 10 minutes, I went back out and got the book and stuffed it down the back of my jeans and went back in. (People must've thought I had a flat-ass!!!) I went back in and hung-out, thinking that someone would tell Tom that I was there and that maybe he would come out to see me for a minute. I fully intended to ask him to mark out the one mention I got in his book, "And Danny Roberts had a van, so we drove." Secondly, and most importantly, I believe Danny Roberts is peeved, angry, and jealous that he wasn’t asked to participate in the RDAD movie or the Mudcrutch reunion. He chose to burn the bridges. In one of his posts, he wrote: There was a certain member that just wasn't pulling it off in the studio, which drove me crazy. When the other guys in the band wouldn't do anything about it - even after our producer lost interest for the same reason - I said "See Ya!" Well, ‘see ya’ it is. Bye bye! Thank you for allowing me to share those thoughts with you.
  8. Confirms a lot of the points I made in my earlier posts.
  9. Is Stan Lynch wearing stilts? ahaha Just kidding! He sure is tall! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTlNr2ikcXQ
  10. Here's another great article in Songwriter Universe Magazine (don't know the date): http://www.songwriteruniverse.com/lynch.htm
  11. Here's the initial part of the interview: Stan Lynch A Heartbreaker’s Work Of Staggering Genius Behind The Music, Behind The Scenes, And Behind The Boards With Stan Lynch by Patrick Berkery When Tom Petty was asked to describe original Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch in the 2005 book Conversations With Tom Petty, the bandleader responded with, “Stan. Now there’s a book in itself.” Any book about the fifty-two-year-old Lynch would surely be an entertaining, fairly hilarious read. The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame drummer-turned-successful songwriter/producer (for Don Henley, The Eagles, The Mavericks, Ringo Starr, and Tim McGraw, among others) and tree farmer (a gig he describes as part Zen, part holding on for dear life, and not unlike playing with Bob Dylan) is an opinionated, intelligent guy who doesn’t mince words or sugarcoat memories. For now, though, this feature on one of rock’s most tasteful timekeepers—a true player of “the song”—will do, for there’s plenty to discuss with Lynch. Such as Lynch’s understated work on those Petty classics. Oh, my my, oh, hell yes, did Lynch serve those songs well. Just think of “Breakdown”’s slinky pulse, the graceful fills that usher in the heavenly chorus in “Here Comes My Girl,” or the swamp-funk groove of his 1993 Heartbreakers swan song “Mary Jane’s Last Dance.” There’s also the matter of last year’s Peter Bogdanovich–directed Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers documentary Runnin’ Down A Dream. In the warts-and-all film, Lynch’s multi-faceted role as steady drummer/class clown/cheerleader/ball breaker/whipping boy was discussed at some length, though his side of the story was represented mostly through older interviews. “I didn’t talk to the Bogdanovich people,” Lynch says. “I just couldn’t. It’s like a part of my life I’ve actually…I won’t say forgotten, because I actually still dream about it. It comes up in weird ways. But I really had to let go of it or else I would walk around constantly trying to tell people who I used to be. “This is the first time I’m talking about it in any depth.” MD: The Heartbreakers worked with a unique mix of producers over the years. How was it working with an established guy like Denny Cordell [Leon Russell, Joe Cocker, Procol Harum] so early on? Stan: He taught me a lot, sometimes in very abstract ways. I was still young and I didn’t really understand what he meant by “groove” and “feel.” I remember asking Denny, “What does that mean, can you quantify that?” So he tells me he’s taking me to a Bob Marley & The Wailers gig, and he flips me the keys to his Ferrari. As we’re driving, he’s making me haul ass, and he says, “Stanley, driving a Ferrari fast, that’s what a groove feels like.” At the gig, Marley had the place hypnotized. Someone’s passing a joint through the balcony and Denny says, “That’s what a feel is.” He was just being helpful in his very ’70s way. Saying, “These are the things that feel incredibly good, that can’t be duplicated. You’ll know it when you know it.” Sure enough, we went back to the studio and we got two tracks that night. I was so vibed. MD: Did he offer more specific advice? Stan: Oh, yeah. Again, in his own way. I remember having a really hard time once on some track. I was playing way too much, trying way too hard. So Denny, in that perfect English accent, he blows a big cloud of smoke and says, “Stan, if you leave all that shit behind and just play the groove, they’ll always misinterpret you as tasteful.” That was brilliant. [laughs] MD: What was your state of mind when you finally got the call that you were fired from the band? Stan: Tom had basically told me I wasn’t the right drummer for him anymore. He decided whatever I was doing he wasn’t digging. So I wanted to put the drums down. I was feeling very insecure about them. I felt like, perhaps, I’d made all the noise I could. And I’m a guy that always wanted to be in a band. And when the set lists and all that stuff went away, I was really lost. I sat down at the drums and I didn’t know whether to cry or barf. I had a kit in my house, and I had to take it away. I just couldn’t look at it. I had to take all the mementos from the band out of my house, everything. I had to forget all that. It was almost like in Men In Black. I had to hit myself in the face with one of those lights; when you wake up, you won’t remember you were ever in a band. You’re a guy who wants to write songs now. MD: And it was Don Henley who helped you on that path, right? Stan: Absolutely. I had gotten the phone call signifying one part of my life was over. Within twenty-four hours, I was talking to Don and he said, “Man, what are you doing?” I said, “I’m probably losing it, I don’t know.” He said, “When The Eagles broke up, I was thirty-three. I know what you’re feeling, so get on a plane.” So I did. I pretty much showed up at his door the next day, and he said, “Welcome to the next chapter.” There's more to this interview! Pick up the May issue of Modern Drummer at music stores, book stores, and newsstands everywhere! http://www.moderndrummer.com/updatefull/200001658
  12. But, at first glance (after another member suggested it looked like one of the presidents), Lincoln came immediately to my mind, with the dark hair and all.
  13. It does! Even the hair is combed over.
  14. The beard looks more like Lincoln. Grant didn't have that kind of beard or the hair style combed over to one side. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://z.about.com/d/americanhistory/1/0/m/9/18_grant_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://americanhistory.about.com/od/uspresidents/ig/Images-of-US-Presidents/Ulysses-S-Grant.htm&h=370&w=300&sz=18&hl=en&start=6&um=1&tbnid=po_3Gew-KwiXoM:&tbnh=122&tbnw=99&prev=/images%3Fq%3DUlysses%2BS.%2BGrant%2Bphoto%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7SKPB In fact, in all the images of Grant, he kept his beard well trimmed and combed his hair back, not parted at the side. http://images.google.com/images?q=Ulysses+S+Grant+photo&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7SKPB&um=1
  15. Take your pick. Lincoln's the only one who most closely resembles the album cover art. Click on the photo to enhance. http://www.historyplace.com/specials/portraits/presidents/index.html The only person to hold the Office of the President of the Confederate States of America was Jefferson Davis. http://americancivilwar.com/south/jeffdavi.html
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