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Thanks, I'll take your word for it, that makes sense, don't feel like wading back into that document. cheers

Nice find, never knew they played this.

Thanks for posting this. Too bad Ringo didn't interview him all the time, that was quite funny! cheers

What do you remember of the 15th? Been there myself with concert regret for two Pearl Jam concerts, I hear ya! cheers

The lead singer Shawn Smith died yesteday aged 53, rest in peace. Haven't listened to this in a long time.

Wow! That sounds like a really fun prize, I'm sure she'll have a good time. cheers

Per the interview he spoke with Mike and Benmont so hopefully they'll be some good new insights! cheers

For me the bigger disappointment if I understood it correctly was Dana's (?) and the company's plans to release yet another Greatest Hits collection. C'mon. There's GH, Anthology, AAT and BOE. Another GH? It's ridiculous. It's also interesting to have a bit of an inside peek at the money amounts thrown around and the focus on promotion, etc. Though at the same time something a bit dismal about it too. He's been gone just over a year and a half and it seems like it just comes down to $. I get it, bills, lifestyles, salaries...it's just the difference between being the listener and engaging with the music on how it speaks to one's heart than dealing with all the complex machinery running underneath. I agree. I hope things are sorted out for everyone's emotional well being; I'm sure once whatever releases are agreed upon will generate money. I could be wrong but it's respectable if Tom's daughters are more concerned about the quality of the music released in addition to financial concerns, despite some bad judgment, wanting to leave off The Heartbreakers. From here on out, unless whomever's in charge judgment calls happen to line up with my preferences I'll probably just end up cherry picking whatever new music comes down the pike if it's clustered with a lot of previous songs. Like others have said, the whole thing's a mess.

https://wfpk.org/2019/southern-accents-how-this-contentious-album-became-a-pivotal-turning-point-in-tom-pettys-musical-history/

If it had been two discs of unreleased material that would've been good but two discs of deep cuts from the albums wouldn't have been much of a draw. I can appreciate the idea behind it, focusing on the lesser known tracks but at this point, with hindsight, bundling them together with some unreleased stuff in AAT seems the better plan.

I think it's one of those situations where there isn't an objective point of view, that everyone thinks they are in the right regarding the musical legacy. I could be wrong. Maybe we'll find out in time. I think there's a respectful, classy way to release unheard tracks and albums without rehashing the same old songs most everyone here already owns. And maybe they'll find that way going forward; but I say this as largely not a fan of box sets. There's just too much we don't know about any of it no Insider (pun intended) perspective. cheers

Nice. I'm starting to think this is their best concert.

In a way GNR seem the exact opposite of TPATH, the anti-TPATH as it were. A band where the lead singer dominated to the point that he was the only one remaining and instead of a career filled with records of the original band or close to it, seeing how far they could grow together musically, you get Chinese Democracy. It was Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers yet he did what he could to keep them as a band, whereas GNR became a band in name only.

I think ten tracks is a good length. Maybe there'd be more if not for She's The One, but if the new ten were mixed in with the original album you'd have twenty-five which is a pretty good sized double album. If true that Tom had this in place then I'd rather them release what he wanted rather than expanding into demos and the like. An album with ten tracks that flow together nicely is pretty good, I think. Heck, I don't even count WF in my top five TPATH albums (I prefer She's The One over it) so I'd just be happy for the people who've been hoping for this to come out to finally have it and to hear the new music. cheers

Ha! I don't even remember why I found that topic but when I saw your post I had to agree. Benmont does this cool melody in the middle of his solo on this version, you know what I'm talking about, it really elevates the song. I thought the dvd version of the tune was good but this was on another level! cheers

This makes sense. The longer this goes on the more money for the legal teams. Probably stepping back and reassessing makes the most sense. But as soon as some formal battle lines are drawn that gets more challenging to do, especially now for better or for worse this stuff has become public. Then factor in Tom's reputation regarding the DTT tapes and Hard Promises record price and that legacy to be lived up to possibly in their minds, I don't know, it just seems like one big legal/emotional mess. Considering all of this, it's impressive how smoothly they promoted AAT since to all of us, it seemed like they were a unified coalition. Now it turns out there was all this in-fighting and acrimony. Like Shelter talking about Chinese Democracy and how it eventually came out, I think All The Rest as Tom finished it or a box set will eventually come out. It could be too that the impending 25th anniversary of the record will motivate them to figure it all out. Overall I don't know what to believe at this point, or how legitimate the email(s) quoted are though I suppose they'd have to be legitimate or that would be libel. What a mess.

Yep. I get what you're saying about "sad and reassuring". My only guess as to why it didn't come out then was the record company figured it would sell better with a tour. Or maybe Tom wanted to release it and do this unique WF tour with old and new material so it got pushed back. 2015 was an off year for the Heartbreakers from touring and maybe Tom was maybe (?) gearing up for entering Mudcrutch mode then. After that came the 40th tour. Now if the project is expanding into a box set coupled with this recent legal revelation, I think my guess for a 25th anniversary release was hopelessly optimistic. But if Tom had it set, which is how it seems, if that's really accurate, then release the darn thing as it is. That fits the situation for sure and explains that weird disconnect. I hear ye man! Yeah, crazy. I read a bunch of the email stuff at the beginning and the complaints but started skimming the stuff about the trust and then felt a bit grimy and figured that's just way too far for me. This is just more pointless speculation. I figure, she misses her Dad and wants him to get his due, maybe just really putting the focus on him. What do I know? The thing is, most people I've spoken with usually refer to the band as Tom Petty, some throw in the Heartbreakers or say the whole thing; he's the singer, the songwriter, probably has the most interviews and photos, there's no doubting where he stands in pop culture and he even has his more or less signature look, top hat and such from the DCAHNM video. I figure grief has just put her into this state of mind where she doesn't see how Tom has always been out front despite keeping the band together and being loyal to them. To me, And the Heartbreakers naturally follows Tom Petty. It doesn't diminish him at all. He was the captain and he did his best to manage the crew through the turbulent rock and roll industry waters. But that's all easy for me to see from the outside. But I really do think And the Heartbreakers should be added to everything unless it's specifically FMF or Highway Companion or even WF though they played on that too. When a collection has so many songs with the Heartbreakers playing on, to not have them in the title would be wrong. That's a good point. I figure let Mike and Benmot sort that out, additional demos and such. But if true that Tom had set up All The Rest as the ten tracks, then out of respect for him, just use that version.

Anyone read this before? https://bittersoutherner.com/from-the-southern-perspective/music/like-sonny-liston-tom-petty-patterson-hood

The real winners here: The legal teams. Picture what they bill per hour dealing with all this.

Let's get some Itzhak Perlman in there.

Thanks.

You're welcome. The real thanks goes to nobodyinparticular and whomever else takes care of that site; it's one heck of a resource. cheers

https://www.thepettyarchives.com/archives/magazines/1990s/1990-04-musician