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    17 minutes ago, Big Blue Sky said:

    I don't know how it was reported in the US. From what you say, I'm assuming it wasn't national news that day. 

    No, I meant the opposite. I'm sure it was huge news; they're a big band over here.  I meant that I must've just not heard about it or if I did, just dismissed it since I never cared for them. But more likely the former as what you said really didn't sound familiar at all to me.

    cheers

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    1 minute ago, Big Blue Sky said:

    That's alright, don't beat yourself up about it. 

    Ha, well I haven't and have no intent to beat myself up over ac/dc. I still think they're a shite band.

    2 minutes ago, Big Blue Sky said:

    Maybe it wasn't national news where you live.

         I can't tell if you're teasing or not. Regardless I'm sure it must've been pretty big news, they're quite a popular band but I don't recall hearing about it. Nor about his death, etc. Sometimes I learn about info on musical groups/singers/pop stars I've no interest in and sometimes not.  

    cheers

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    3 minutes ago, Big Blue Sky said:

    Briskly: yes well, if we must go down this rabbit hole, you might also be aware that four years later Malcom Young was diagnosed with Alzheimer's as he increasingly could no longer remember or play songs he wrote. 

    Well, that's horrible. I'm sorry to hear that.

    Certainly fans could critique the set list and still feel sadness at what happened to him.

    The above is pretty much the extent of my ac/dc knowledge.

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    48 minutes ago, Big Blue Sky said:

    being in the fortunate position of instant access to lots of songs, means we can easily play that fun game of: one song + many bands = many covers... what do you feel each band contributes? which are your favourites? how would you cover it?

    In my opinion, probably the best cover is Hendrix's All Along The Watchtower.

    Took a shuffling, harmonica riddled song and turned it into an epic, filled with emotional fluid guitar solos building to one of the best outro solos he ever played. Completely transformed the song so thoroughly while emphasizing the theme and feel through his reworking that I don't even think of it as a Bob Dylan song. It sounds epic and forlorn, rocking yet light with a deft touch. And the recording doesn't sound dated at all.

    There's cover songs I enjoy but mostly I'd rather listen to the original. Maybe others will chime in here and run with it. 

    cheers

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    It's probably like this with most rock bands:

    http://bravewords.com/news/fans-to-ac-dc-change-the-setlist

    FANS TO AC/DC - "CHANGE THE SETLIST!"

    November 6, 2009, 9 years ago

     

    AC/DC fans have issued a formal complaint to the band via the website www.acdcfans.net to change the show setlist. The Black Ice tour has featured the same songs in the same order since the start of the tour.

    Says the site:

    "On the current Black Ice World Tour, during which some of us having travelled across Europe, the United States and flown between the two continents (with flights already booked to Australia to catch the Australian leg), we have listened to you play the same great songs each and every night. We absolutely appreciate every song you play, but we can't help but wonder if the band is getting a little bored of playing the same songs night after night.

    Are you aware there are thousands of fans just like us who have spent months discussing the Black Ice World Tour setlist, every one of them hoping that the band will play something other than songs geared towards casual fans? - the sort of fans that put money in your pockets, but who don't have the same level of passion for your music as us. They may cheer at the concerts, they may go home happy... but they only came to hear Thunderstruck. They don't eat, sleep and shit AC/DC like we do.

    As the greatest band on Earth, we think it is a travesty that you are not playing songs that are dear to yourselves and your long term loyal fans - the songs from albums that critics wrote off, but which we both know are some of the finest from your back catalog.

    So, we'd like you to consider changing the setlist. We won't be rude and say "play this" or "don't play that" - we'll leave it to you to decide - surprise us!

    Please give us, and the many thousands like us, some hard hittin', heavy rockin' tracks that we, the true long term fans of AC/DC, know and love.

    Thank you for your time and your music."

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    22 minutes ago, Big Blue Sky said:

    "Baby Please Don't Go"

    File under responses you were not looking for:

    1) Never cared for Tom singing this.

    23 minutes ago, Big Blue Sky said:

    However, here AC/DC are getting ready for only their 2nd time on live TV ever & their lead singer turns up minutes before cameras start rolling & he's dressed in drag

    2)The riffs may be good but I never cared for the singing so therefore never cared for Ac/dc. And the riffs aren't that great. Much better bands out there. 

    3) The whole schoolboy outfit is stupid. It was stupid in the 70s but to still be prancing about onstage in the 21st century is ridiculous. And boring. At the same time.

    4) The whole "hell schtick" is even stupider.

    5) I guess years ago Ac/dc fans tried to get the band to change up their set list. I don't know if it was effective. I think the band didn't give a toss. I think they make TPATH look adventurous on stage.

    6) People joke they've just written the same album/song over and over. It seems that way.

    7) I don't get the drag thing.

    8) Thunderstruck is all right. Kinda likeable till the singer starts in. 

    ciao

     

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    Speaking of, a member of this forum made a FAULT LINES sign and Mike saw it from stage and I think he shook his head 'no' or something a number of shows from the one and only time they played it early on the Hypnotic Eye tour.

    Before the video vanished from youtube I saw it and yeah, it was rough but I don't think it was anything to be ashamed of and would've improved in time but it never appeared again. Maybe there was a lot of pressure on Tom, maybe self-induced I have no clue, to really please the audience and let's face it, most people there weren't big Hypnotic Eye fans, so maybe that deflating energy from the crowd was something he really tried to avoid.

    I saw a guy with a Hypnotic Eye tour shirt and asked him what he thought of the new album.

    "Haven't heard it."

    But it's really a shame the residencies weren't stuffed with deep cuts since they were playing for a more hardcore audience. Hey, who knows, maybe Tom didn't think a lot of the deep cuts were good songs or wouldn't translate live. I like Zombie Zoo and he thought it was a mistake to have on record!

    cheers

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    24 minutes ago, TheSameOldDrew said:

    "Stepping Stone" was cool when Paul Revere did it, cool when The Monkees did it, fine when TPATH did it, but nowhere near the thrill I'd have had if they'd done one of their own neglected songs (other than "Zombie Zoo", but for a lot of people even that would have been a huge thrill). 

    Zombie Zoo would've been good!

     But I recall reading an interview where Mike was calling it the Free From Free Fallin shows or whatever and either him or Tom saying how much fun they had playing Stepping Stone. Sure, fine, but...so many unplayed deep cuts! I just didn't get it. How could they prioritize Stepping Stone over Finding Out? Or Let Me Up. Or fill in your song of choice. 

    But being annoyed, for me, raging about it online was, while sometimes entertaining, was a really pointless thing to do. I knew it as I did it but wanted to express that puzzlement and frustration with what they played live, same with the interviews before each tour like you noted earlier. And I think there were some interesting discussions on the topic and some valid points made.

    In the end, the band was going to do what they were going to do and I either accept it or just pass on listening to them live and ignore the reviews. Even now there's songs I just skip when listening to a live show simply because I've heard them so many times. I get Shelter's point about it not having to be an either/or situation with covers but it seemed that way. But really, it wasn't an either/or, it was very doubtful they'd ever dig deep. Maybe sure, there's rehearsals of them giving stuff like The Criminal Kind or Fault Lines an attempt but who knows? From the outside, it seemed like Tom felt like putting some covers into the show and that was the new exciting thing for the band and maybe for a lot of the audience. I'm just glad they did throw in some deep cuts at any point, be it the Fillmore or the Beacon/Fonda shows etc.

    Heck, I was glad they played When The Time Comes twice. That was quite a fun surprise.

    But I hear ya man, I get where you're coming from on this.

    cheers

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    17 minutes ago, TheSameOldDrew said:

    "Restless", "The Criminal Kind", "Ain't Love Strange", "All Mixed Up", "Dark of the Sun", "You and I Will Meet Again", "Red River", "All You Can Carry", and several others, that's an unfortunate imbalance IMO.  Add in once played (outside of the album) songs like "Hurt", "Deliver Me", "Finding Out", "The Same Old You", "Letting You Go", "Ways To Be Wicked", "Waiting For Tonight" (probably could have been done with the Webb sisters on the final tour), to my thinking it's a misallocation of focus on the "hits" and some mediocre covers. 

    100% agree with you but have found this to be a minority opinion, not just here but in general. I recall reading a review of the Live Anthology where the number of covers was lauded.

    Only recently I accepted the covers as the band playing something different from the usual songs and therefore novel; and depending on the tune (Travelin' Light, good, Gloria awful) can enjoy them when I get around to listening to some live TPATH. But of course, the songs you list above would've been far more exciting to hear, either in person or on a bootleg or official release. I don't care about honoring their peers or that they loved Gloria, it's like their own songs were underestimated, numbers that to me, were far superior to most of the covers they played. But what can ye do? 

    cheers

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    1 hour ago, Hoodoo Man said:

    11 Mary Jane s Last Dance.mp3

     

    This version of the song is one of my favorites, it has a fairly extended jam and there is a section of the song that reminds me of American dream plan B near the 5 min mark.  This is from the Fillmore 2/7/97..

    That's a good one indeed. I'm also fond of the Last Dj versions with the double-time ending. Was a bit of a let down when they stopped taking it to this length, double-time or no.

    Last Brew With Maxwell House, one more sip to ease the pain of how terrible this coffee is, won't be brewin' this agaaaaaaainnnnn...

    cheers

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    26 minutes ago, Hoodoo Man said:

    Bought it years ago before online trading was a thing.... Still have a lot of my old bootlegs from vines for a number of bands... someday I will get around to ripping those digitally... 

    First it was taping off the radio or finding a bootleg in a record store or convention. Then online, there were the two for one trades, sending two blank tapes for a single one with music on it, then Cd-rs and eventually where things are now, with the quick ability to download shows for free. What a progression.

    cheers

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    2 hours ago, Hoodoo Man said:

    Not to mention the King Biscuit radio hour where you could hear bootlegs as well as the Westwood One live broadcast of full shows. 

    I do remember that, somehow, sometimes things aligning so I was ready with cassette tape to record a band I liked. I can still hear the dj's voice from the show, ha ha. And remember trying to figure out when to flip the tape to not cut a song off.

    cheers

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    2 hours ago, Hoodoo Man said:

    we are talking about a different era back then before everything was done by algorithm and corporate greed.

    I remain skeptical, not about algorithm but greed but I also concede you may be right. I hope it was different back then anyway. Maybe someone on here who happened to go through it at the time will chime in. At the same time, Tom playing the song he did perhaps in response to some of the audience (?) being disgruntled says a lot. Or something at least : )

    1 hour ago, Shelter said:

    Indeed. Personally I'd much rather have a free ticket from a radio station - even if it took calling in or sending a letter asking for one -

    Seems like you'd have a better chance going to ticket outlets in person than just being dependent on the one station.

    1 hour ago, Shelter said:

    than being legally screwed by shady monopoly enterprises like LiveNation, Ticketmaster, the way these things usually work today

    I think I read how some musicians/performers directly sell tickets to scalpers creating this secondary market or something. In a way, it's like the radio station buying all the tickets but even worse somehow since the price gets elevated immediately. 

    1 hour ago, Shelter said:

    To me radio show give-aways was one of many wonderful things from before it all crashed and burned, if you ask me. To buy up the whole darn barn of seats, may have been to go slightly overboard, of course.. but again..

    Giveaways can be fun, this just seems wildly extreme. Well...it's sad that things have gotten so wildly out of control when it comes to purchasing tickets and so much greed is enabled whatever the source.

    ciao

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    42 minutes ago, Big Blue Sky said:

    aid upfront to support the tour AND buzz generated by radio promotions - many advantages. :D $10.50 / ticket!!

    But if you all desperately want to go... & have to hope you win entry based solely on luck-of-the-draw via your radio station, yeah, not so much fun. :angry: Especially if you miss out! 

    Who wants to be listening endlessly to a radio station for a chance at tickets? It sounds horrible. Most radio is shite. The same ten to twenty songs over and over, pointless boring jabber from lame djs...blehh. Constantly dangling a chance at tickets, listen in for your chance to win! But dragged out over an hour. Maybe I'm wrong and it worked out great but it sounds terrible for the fans.

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    21 hours ago, mikemono said:

    Perhaps @Marion has the full show in her archive somewhere?

    Marion and you, the Queen and King of live Petty. Thanks again, Mike.

    3 hours ago, TheSameOldDrew said:

    I think it's a fabulous performance, though I agree that if they'd kept performing and polishing it, it could have really been impressive.  Even in this performance, with a little imagination regarding the sound quality, it's better than the studio performance.  I especially like Benmont's piano and keyboard work here, though the guitar work is terrific too.

    I think it could've been one heck of a song for them in concert, though I think adding on two to three minutes to the outro would really make it something exciting. Longer but not into It's Good To Be King territory, but with a chance for Mike and Benmont to have some fun. While not as tight as the studio version it still has the song's swagger. Who knows, maybe they tried it more than once, but regardless, what a treat to be able to hear it now

     

    cheers

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    23 minutes ago, Big Blue Sky said:

    And in Chicago, FM station WLUP staged what the LA Times called "one of the most amazing promotional stunts in rock radio history." The station forked out over $170,000 to buy all 15,000 seats for Petty's June 11 gig at Rosemont Arena, which were then given away to Petty fans in various promotional events.

    Yipes! Thanks for sharing. That is crazy. It sounds good on paper, fans getting in for free but the execution of it must've been a friggin' nightmare. Bad enough trying to get tickets through Ticketron back then right? Or camping out and whatnot but to be dependent on a radio station's whims...Money King etc.

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    2 hours ago, Hoodoo Man said:

    Tom was still struggling somewhat to fill up seats so this was a promotional concert...  I could be mixing this up with an earlier in their career show...

     I read this in a Rolling Stone magazine from the ITGWO tour. From the Petty Archives site:

    https://www.thepettyarchives.com/archives/magazines/1990s/1991-10-12-billboard

     

    "...By the time of Petty and the Heartbreakers' last effort together, 1987's underrated Let Me Up (I've Had Enough), sales were slipping, and there were more and more empty seats when the group hit the arenas. "We played a lot of shows where they'd put a curtain up to hide the fact that there was only a two-third house," says Campbell. "But we played like we had a full house and then worried about it when we got back to the hotel." 

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