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It's okay. I listened to it early on when I found a copy of the live lp from the 70s at a record convention but it wasn't as good as Luna or Dog on the Run, I liked the upbeat energy but overall, it's not something I particularly care for. I guess Bye Bye Johnny is all right, I like the playing on it but again, not a fan. I recognize Chuck Berry's influence through all of rock and roll with his playing more than I listen to the man's music. I probably heard more guitar players play his signature lines than the originals. I don't even recall what Take out some insurance sounds like. I'll go listen. Oh boy, I couldn't even make it through that. Oh no. How could they play that song when so many of their own were neglected? Luna alone is superior to that and is more of a quiet song if they wanted to cool things off for a bit. The playing is good but no, those types of generic sounding (groundbreaking at their time? I don't know) tunes don't do anything for me. I guess they work as a simple framework for Benmont or Mike to solo over which is the only selling point; and I like basic simple songs but I didn't like this at all. cheers

Yes, I enjoy that one quite a bit, not just because of the novelty of Stan singing but the energy the band played it with; I was actually pleased to hear the live show from the Last Dj tour where they played it again; though the Take The Highway version is probably my favorite for nostalgia reasons. I like how one part of the song swaggers along and the other part goes into hyper mode, fun to see Stan switch from one gear to the next, and of course, I enjoy hearing Mike rake the pick against the strings making that wonderful sound during the fast part. cheers

No, I meant the opposite. I'm sure it was huge news; they're a big band over here. I meant that I must've just not heard about it or if I did, just dismissed it since I never cared for them. But more likely the former as what you said really didn't sound familiar at all to me. cheers

Thanks for clarifying, it just read weirdly to me: wasn't national news where you live. Seems like the death of the guitarist for a major rock band would be pretty large news, especially since the US loves them. cheers

Ha, well I haven't and have no intent to beat myself up over ac/dc. I still think they're a shite band. I can't tell if you're teasing or not. Regardless I'm sure it must've been pretty big news, they're quite a popular band but I don't recall hearing about it. Nor about his death, etc. Sometimes I learn about info on musical groups/singers/pop stars I've no interest in and sometimes not. cheers

My point with posting the above article was I think most hardcore fans of any band, or at least a certain segment will critique a band's set list to varying degrees. A place of overlap for ac/dc fans and TPATH's. ciao

Well, that's horrible. I'm sorry to hear that. Certainly fans could critique the set list and still feel sadness at what happened to him. The above is pretty much the extent of my ac/dc knowledge.

In my opinion, probably the best cover is Hendrix's All Along The Watchtower. Took a shuffling, harmonica riddled song and turned it into an epic, filled with emotional fluid guitar solos building to one of the best outro solos he ever played. Completely transformed the song so thoroughly while emphasizing the theme and feel through his reworking that I don't even think of it as a Bob Dylan song. It sounds epic and forlorn, rocking yet light with a deft touch. And the recording doesn't sound dated at all. There's cover songs I enjoy but mostly I'd rather listen to the original. Maybe others will chime in here and run with it. cheers

It's probably like this with most rock bands: http://bravewords.com/news/fans-to-ac-dc-change-the-setlist FANS TO AC/DC - "CHANGE THE SETLIST!" November 6, 2009, 9 years ago AC/DC fans have issued a formal complaint to the band via the website www.acdcfans.net to change the show setlist. The Black Ice tour has featured the same songs in the same order since the start of the tour. Says the site: "On the current Black Ice World Tour, during which some of us having travelled across Europe, the United States and flown between the two continents (with flights already booked to Australia to catch the Australian leg), we have listened to you play the same great songs each and every night. We absolutely appreciate every song you play, but we can't help but wonder if the band is getting a little bored of playing the same songs night after night. Are you aware there are thousands of fans just like us who have spent months discussing the Black Ice World Tour setlist, every one of them hoping that the band will play something other than songs geared towards casual fans? - the sort of fans that put money in your pockets, but who don't have the same level of passion for your music as us. They may cheer at the concerts, they may go home happy... but they only came to hear Thunderstruck. They don't eat, sleep and shit AC/DC like we do. As the greatest band on Earth, we think it is a travesty that you are not playing songs that are dear to yourselves and your long term loyal fans - the songs from albums that critics wrote off, but which we both know are some of the finest from your back catalog. So, we'd like you to consider changing the setlist. We won't be rude and say "play this" or "don't play that" - we'll leave it to you to decide - surprise us! Please give us, and the many thousands like us, some hard hittin', heavy rockin' tracks that we, the true long term fans of AC/DC, know and love. Thank you for your time and your music."

Let's fire cannons from the stage! Bang bang boom!

Chomp chomp! Let me get my fangs going here...

File under responses you were not looking for: 1) Never cared for Tom singing this. 2)The riffs may be good but I never cared for the singing so therefore never cared for Ac/dc. And the riffs aren't that great. Much better bands out there. 3) The whole schoolboy outfit is stupid. It was stupid in the 70s but to still be prancing about onstage in the 21st century is ridiculous. And boring. At the same time. 4) The whole "hell schtick" is even stupider. 5) I guess years ago Ac/dc fans tried to get the band to change up their set list. I don't know if it was effective. I think the band didn't give a toss. I think they make TPATH look adventurous on stage. 6) People joke they've just written the same album/song over and over. It seems that way. 7) I don't get the drag thing. 8) Thunderstruck is all right. Kinda likeable till the singer starts in. ciao

Speaking of, a member of this forum made a FAULT LINES sign and Mike saw it from stage and I think he shook his head 'no' or something a number of shows from the one and only time they played it early on the Hypnotic Eye tour. Before the video vanished from youtube I saw it and yeah, it was rough but I don't think it was anything to be ashamed of and would've improved in time but it never appeared again. Maybe there was a lot of pressure on Tom, maybe self-induced I have no clue, to really please the audience and let's face it, most people there weren't big Hypnotic Eye fans, so maybe that deflating energy from the crowd was something he really tried to avoid. I saw a guy with a Hypnotic Eye tour shirt and asked him what he thought of the new album. "Haven't heard it." But it's really a shame the residencies weren't stuffed with deep cuts since they were playing for a more hardcore audience. Hey, who knows, maybe Tom didn't think a lot of the deep cuts were good songs or wouldn't translate live. I like Zombie Zoo and he thought it was a mistake to have on record! cheers

Zombie Zoo would've been good! But I recall reading an interview where Mike was calling it the Free From Free Fallin shows or whatever and either him or Tom saying how much fun they had playing Stepping Stone. Sure, fine, but...so many unplayed deep cuts! I just didn't get it. How could they prioritize Stepping Stone over Finding Out? Or Let Me Up. Or fill in your song of choice. But being annoyed, for me, raging about it online was, while sometimes entertaining, was a really pointless thing to do. I knew it as I did it but wanted to express that puzzlement and frustration with what they played live, same with the interviews before each tour like you noted earlier. And I think there were some interesting discussions on the topic and some valid points made. In the end, the band was going to do what they were going to do and I either accept it or just pass on listening to them live and ignore the reviews. Even now there's songs I just skip when listening to a live show simply because I've heard them so many times. I get Shelter's point about it not having to be an either/or situation with covers but it seemed that way. But really, it wasn't an either/or, it was very doubtful they'd ever dig deep. Maybe sure, there's rehearsals of them giving stuff like The Criminal Kind or Fault Lines an attempt but who knows? From the outside, it seemed like Tom felt like putting some covers into the show and that was the new exciting thing for the band and maybe for a lot of the audience. I'm just glad they did throw in some deep cuts at any point, be it the Fillmore or the Beacon/Fonda shows etc. Heck, I was glad they played When The Time Comes twice. That was quite a fun surprise. But I hear ya man, I get where you're coming from on this. cheers

100% agree with you but have found this to be a minority opinion, not just here but in general. I recall reading a review of the Live Anthology where the number of covers was lauded. Only recently I accepted the covers as the band playing something different from the usual songs and therefore novel; and depending on the tune (Travelin' Light, good, Gloria awful) can enjoy them when I get around to listening to some live TPATH. But of course, the songs you list above would've been far more exciting to hear, either in person or on a bootleg or official release. I don't care about honoring their peers or that they loved Gloria, it's like their own songs were underestimated, numbers that to me, were far superior to most of the covers they played. But what can ye do? cheers

I had to look it up too, talk about a deep cut indeed. Still say this would've been a fun cover for them. ciao

That's a good one indeed. I'm also fond of the Last Dj versions with the double-time ending. Was a bit of a let down when they stopped taking it to this length, double-time or no. Last Brew With Maxwell House, one more sip to ease the pain of how terrible this coffee is, won't be brewin' this agaaaaaaainnnnn... cheers

First it was taping off the radio or finding a bootleg in a record store or convention. Then online, there were the two for one trades, sending two blank tapes for a single one with music on it, then Cd-rs and eventually where things are now, with the quick ability to download shows for free. What a progression. cheers

I do remember that, somehow, sometimes things aligning so I was ready with cassette tape to record a band I liked. I can still hear the dj's voice from the show, ha ha. And remember trying to figure out when to flip the tape to not cut a song off. cheers

I remain skeptical, not about algorithm but greed but I also concede you may be right. I hope it was different back then anyway. Maybe someone on here who happened to go through it at the time will chime in. At the same time, Tom playing the song he did perhaps in response to some of the audience (?) being disgruntled says a lot. Or something at least : ) Seems like you'd have a better chance going to ticket outlets in person than just being dependent on the one station. I think I read how some musicians/performers directly sell tickets to scalpers creating this secondary market or something. In a way, it's like the radio station buying all the tickets but even worse somehow since the price gets elevated immediately. Giveaways can be fun, this just seems wildly extreme. Well...it's sad that things have gotten so wildly out of control when it comes to purchasing tickets and so much greed is enabled whatever the source. ciao

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Where does TPATH's version rank for all of you? Up there, one of the best things they did live? Middle of the road? Didn't care for it? I like the energy they brought to the song and pretty much most opportunities to hear Mike or Benmont (even Tom) solos is nice. I think for me it's above middle of the road.

Powerful. Never heard it before, thanks.

Who wants to be listening endlessly to a radio station for a chance at tickets? It sounds horrible. Most radio is shite. The same ten to twenty songs over and over, pointless boring jabber from lame djs...blehh. Constantly dangling a chance at tickets, listen in for your chance to win! But dragged out over an hour. Maybe I'm wrong and it worked out great but it sounds terrible for the fans.

Marion and you, the Queen and King of live Petty. Thanks again, Mike. I think it could've been one heck of a song for them in concert, though I think adding on two to three minutes to the outro would really make it something exciting. Longer but not into It's Good To Be King territory, but with a chance for Mike and Benmont to have some fun. While not as tight as the studio version it still has the song's swagger. Who knows, maybe they tried it more than once, but regardless, what a treat to be able to hear it now cheers