MaryJanes2ndLastDance
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If Jack White went ahead and did with TP&TH what Rick Rubin (and TP&TH, coincidentally) did for Johnny Cash, I'd be more than eager to hear it. A dream come true to hear some MC vs JW team work.
I'd be curious to hear what Jack White could do as a producer of the band, but for originals! Or...do an album of originals and then all covers album as a free downloadable bonus when you buy the album.
I could be wrong but I've a feeling they are going to stick with Ryan Ulyate and keep to there let's record as a band at once method. Which I like. But that still leaves the potential for what they do together, as, dare I say it...into the great wide open.
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A week later and my long winded review continues on! Onto the B-Side!
"The Criminal Kind" has a great opening slide riff from Mike. The lyrics call back to the "Nightwatchman" and "Something Big" with the dark, seedy imagery it paints lyrically. A driving rocking song where the band is again firing on all cylinders. Tom's vocals are full of snarl and attitude. It's great.
Interesting about the lyrical connection to Nightwatchman. Musically it definitely feels similar (but not derivative) to Nightwatchman.
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I love DTP but I get a nagging sense that it is trying too hard to be great when it didn't actually need to try that hard to be great, or maybe that was the whole point, too much ain't enough at times and you only live once so why not go for it...the travelling from LA to New York to see if the album sounded different or could be recorded differently as documented by Tom & Jimmy may seem a bit obsessive, but I firmly believe that the 'trial and error' to mastery of DTT,
For my taste, Torpedoes has risen quite a bit recently, it's a really solid album, synthesizing everything they did up to that point and taking it to a new level. The "trial and error" helped, though perhaps went a bit crazy with Refugee and rough on Stan but the end result is one of their best records. Oh, because of the songwriting. I could be wrong, but Damn the Torpedoes would still be as good if it had the same production as the first two. As successful, well, I don't know.
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In this case, too much is enough.
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Yeah, they can really do a good job playing Steppin' Stone, Paul Revere, whatever. They've got 16 albums to pull songs from! Sure, some bands in the future could play play My Life/Your World or Makin' Some Noise but let's hear TPATH play them while they can. The world doesn't need more steppin stone covers or G L O R I A or Green Onions. But hearing TPATH play Luna...that's worth a thousand covers.
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While there's no denying their musical prowess in playing covers, especially when they jam, I'm surprised so many are fine with them, since for every cover that's one less TPATH song you'll hear. Of course, there's no guarantee that replacing something turgid like Gloria will yield a Dog on the Run; maybe it would just be another hit. But for sure, the covers keep a TPATH off, hit or deep cut.
Even the long show from the Fillmore from 97 has just about half the set as covers, sooooo...much like the standard set list, I don't think he'll ever stop playing a lot of covers, which is a shame.
I understand, some? most? people enjoy them, the band likes playin' 'em so that's that.
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Good luck with the doctor stuff.
Hot peppers, enjoy!
I can do about 1 diced habanero with a meal sometimes, any more than that is too much. Sometimes just one is too much. Fresh from your garden sound delicious!
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I've grown to love the covers, but there was a time when they irritated me.
Interesting. What changed for you?
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Maybe there's audio of their rehearsals with Stan for the rock hall. Something like that would be a good Live at the Clubhouse Vol. 1 even if they didn't practice at the clubhouse.
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I personally would love to hear live practice sessions with all the mistakes and talking going on, what do you think?
Hearing them practice with mistakes and such sounds good but I don't know, I've a hard time believing Tom would go for that. Whatever happened with Fault Lines ended it in concert on the tour from the album it's on...would Tom be open to letting people hear them flub songs? I'd be fine with hearing it and wouldn't think any less of them as a band
Anyway, I think it's a good suggestion nurktwin.
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The residencies that they do are the only way we'll get those album cuts. So - here's to the residencies!! Come up to Seattle and do 10 shows at the Paramount!!!
I picked a random date, June 11, 2013 and they play 6 out of 22 songs. That's nearly a third of the entire concert. He'd rather play Willin' or I'd Like To Love You Baby than something from their past records. He'd rather play Green Onions for the umpteenth time than You And I Will Meet Again? Apparently.
So residencies, while remaining the best chance of getting deep cuts are a bit overrated in that area as well. Even then, he plays too many damn covers.
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Nice, thanks for sharing this.
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"All the Rest?"
Sorry to break it to you. But it's actually "All The Restaurant."
That's right, it's not an album. it's actually a menu for the new Wildflowers themed restaurant chains where you can have You Don't Know How It Filets, Only A Broken Artichokes and It's Good To Eat King Crab.
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A link to a downloadable, free radio broadcast 33 song concert from Chicago in 2014.
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Membership at the official board is about more than advance access to concert tickets. In recent years it has included a copy of the new record, usually an exclusive copy of a live record recorded on the tour - that you can't buy anywhere else - and some kind of discount in the store (which is kind of lame, truth be known). So I've joined up, even though I'm kind of a tightwad.
My guess on the upcoming announcement will be - a copy of the new Mudcrutch record, and advance access to concert tickets - and maybe more music recorded live on the tour. Just a guess, but that would be consistent with recent years.
The live e.p. sounds pretty good.
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I think I may have dodged a bullet. Coolant hose split = engine failure = instant stop and recovery = car back on road again. Phew. Subaru Outback Legacy. Thirsty but a good servant.
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I don't know who said it, maybe someone here knows, though I doubt it.
But you know...too much ain't enough. It ain't enough.
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I'm partial to a mix of the rocking and the odd, like You Wreck Me meets It Ain't Nothin' To Me. Songs with different structures, moody numbers more like Luna, less Angel Dream.
I'd like them to push themselves into new territory, regardless of whether I like it or not. Who knows? They just did a rocking album with Hynpotic Eye, I could see Tom wanting to go in a different direction. Hopefully not more acoustic.
Techno Tom Petty hahahaha!
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I have to disagree. As much as I would love to hear more deep cuts I really enjoy the covers just as much and wouldn't want to give them up either. Can't we have it all? 😄
Yes!
What they could do is view the covers as the cherry on top of the sundae, they get played in addition to their music, not at the exclusion of.
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The amount of covers TPATH perform is ridiculous. On the regular edition of the Live Anthology, their long awaited and much anticipated live album, the chance to hear really good sound quality songs spanning their career and 13 of them are covers...! That's crazy. That's a whole disc. Especially when there are so many deep cuts that have been left in storage or never performed.
I enjoy the residencies but am consistently disappointed with the covers played. Sure, yes, it's fun hearing Stepping Stone but not when it's at the expense of let's say...Finding Out. Or You And I Will Meet Again. Or Hurt. Or fill in your own favorite song they haven't played in decades. This isn't a cover band. They ain't hurtin' for material.
It's fun for them. Which I understand. But it's a shame. Oh, not them having fun, not the audience for recognizing some older tune but because they rarely pull the older songs out. And when they do, it's usually the same ones, like Two Gunslingers, Billy The Kid, etc.
I think what it is, besides their enjoyment in performing these numbers, is that they're usually recognized hits and will generate the audience response in a way, that Fault Lines wouldn't. Except...it's a residency with I'm assuming, some pretty huge TPATH fans who do appreciate Fault Lines or Magnolia or We Stand A Chance.
I don't want to hear TPATH play Paul Revere and the Raiders (of the Monkees!). Not when they've got Come On Down To My House or You Tell Me.
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^ Unfortunately, I think you are right. I don't know of any live version either.
But in terms of fun videos.. there is also these two from the same french Houba Houba show from 1982. Bad quality, but it seems like 1982 was indeed a very good year for this band creatively speaking (although an outtake song and Wild Thing is not what I'd chose if I had so much good new original stuff going,
The outtake song is interesting, not only do I like it but perhaps there was some conflict about its inclusion and ended up being played. Maybe the final track listing hadn't been decided when this was recorded and Keepin' Me Alive was in contention.
Wild Thing is a fun cover (reminds me of their version of Louie Louie) but...again, here's the problem, given the chance, Tom will have them play covers. Which is a shame. And worth its own topic.
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Thanks for the other clips, I've seen those as well, never knew where it was from till I found the Finding Out clip.
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^ Unfortunately, I think you are right. I don't know of any live version either.I
I think this is up there with Zombie Zoo and You and I Will Meet Again for not being played in concert. It's mindboggling. While Zoo maybe isn't as in demand, I'm still surprised they haven't played it ever.
Finding Out wasn't a "solo" album song, but a really good tune on one of their best albums. This performance alone shows how good it was live and how much room there was for some great outro soloing as the song evolved.
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legend. A really, really great album. Great songs (on paper - see other discussion
) and great arrangements and sounds abound! Not a bad or boring or filler note on the whole record, if you asked me. You didn't.I figure the question for what everyone else on here thinks is implicit but perhaps I should be more direct. It can be interesting to read others takes on these records, heck...it's a large part of why this forum is here.
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A couple years ago you could've said the same thing about When The Time Comes and they played it, so...while it is unlikely they'll perform Luna (or You and I Will Meet Again, Moon Pie, Airport, whatever) it's not impossible. When the time comes didn't even have a petition going in its favor, hadn't been played in what, over twenty years and they pulled it out.
And whether they play Luna or not is missing the point, it's still better than all the covers they could ever play. Same with the rest of their deep cuts.
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