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Ok, then. Let's drop those other angles. Let's just agree that what is interesting is a subjective matter and what is unreleased/new is an objective matter. And, moreover, let's just say that I definately agree with the general outlook of what you just cooked. It certainly can be done and it even should be done. As a "tribute", anniversary or otherwise, to an album, such well made boxes are fantastic. Agreed. Presented the way you suggest* they are more like ultimate versions, actually replacing the original for most fans, than just another reissue designed to make you buy another copy and then another. That said, I still can't quite praise the concept of repitition over focusing on new things.
And as far as your original example goes, I would really dig the idea of having ITGWO reissued with a bonus disc of rarities and some documentary material and a TTH live dvd. But! If I got to choose, I would much rather have a live DVD of something else 91/92, or a fresh made/edited film in the 400 Days vein. If any such was even possible, that is. Anything to get as much "news" in there as possible. I guess, by now, you catch my drift..  
I totally agree that DTT Deluxe was a rather weak attempt at being generous with what's in the vaults. The bonus tracks are too few, too randomly selected and scattered. They are all very good and interesting though, mind you. So, not at all being a man of my words, I would recommend you to buy it! At least until the real, ultimate archival DTT release comes along and stomp all competition flat. Keeping with your above definition as a very minum (in terms of content and amount) I would love to see such archival boxes made for most of the albums, perhaps especially of interest for me personally, would be Hard Promises and Long After Dark.
But, just to return to "those other angles" a bit after all, I would, again, however... here it comes... also be more than fine with an extensive archive box, documenting sessions, heavy with liner notes, that compiles and focus on unreleased/outtakes/demos/b-sides from the "Backstreet Years" for example, and perhaps another one detailing the "Jeff Lynne Years" (Ok, it just can't be called that...) and so on.
Finally, tying this back to topic a bit, I think it's great that there are so much live stuff on the shelf. I can picture a Live Archives type series as well, sure why not. From what Steve talks about, I'd say that the San Francisco run from 1997 is the most interesting to ponder, by far. Since the fantastic 2003 live stint of Chicago is already covered (on DVD, but still) I think an extensive release from the Fonda/Beacon from a few years ago would be the most interesting of the rest. (The Kiss My Amps Vol 2 really speaks of the wonder of those shows.) A stuffed full double LP from there and then, focusing (as always) on the less obvious tracks, that hasn't already been issued a dozen times or more, would be fantastic. In fact, I much rather take a limited RSD type release of that, that goes all in on the rare, than a widely issued money sucking greatest hits live type of album. (Or, what would be even worse - if the most likely thing to actually happen - a live album that chronicles the same old main set and squeeze in two or three odd ones for flavor and attraction. I would so hate that.) I wouldn't say that a live album from what was to became the last tour would be of any interest to me either. At least not in comparison to every other possible release. It's not that many interesting versions to cover, after all, and despite its historical value and the context - or precisely because of that (me finding the tour pointless and all) - I wouldn't listen to it much. In general, at this point (save for perhaps said Beacon/Fonda concept mentioned) I'd say that I have a lot less interest in a contemporary live album, than I do in all the shelved and boxed studio and demo material hidden somewhere. That is the real gold mine as far as I see it, sorry Steve. So, being it on pimped album reissues or on rarity boxes, I really hope a lot of that material will see the light of day before the ultimate sundown. There still is a slim chance that the "All The Rest" album, that's been discussed for so many years now, is actually gonna be released at some point. So, let's not get greedy. Let's start with that. As for all the rest? Well, there is always much much later.
 
 
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*And I realize that's what you perhaps been doing all along . I just that I felt the urge to dwell on some minor conceptual details, since this reissue business these days reaches levels of lethal stupidity at times.

Little known fact: "tax", in Swedish means "wiener-dog".

Ford F-150?

Yeah.. even considering the change in money value, this development pretty much killed rock'n'roll dead. What we have is a pimped ghost of what used to be wild and raw. And for most part, that about as much as most people can take these days, anyway. We've been numbed out... sad to say. 

^ Thank you kindly. It's all a futile resistence, if ever I saw one... 
Well, wouldn't that be nice. Unfortunately, it's a little too late for that, hu. Once the "rights" and "licences" are fully or partially signed over, or in other ways ends up in the hands of the wrong people - especially business side specialists, with a strikingly different agenda from the artist, usually - it's more or less game over, as far as intact integrity goes. Sure, these things are never black or white, but I'd say that any band/operation as big and successfull as was TPATH, sooner or later will be forced to involve certain powers from the outside, that may to a varying degree handle things differently than the artist/band would've wished for or themselves found optimal. It's just bulit in logic that you can't stay 100% indipendent when you get big enough. Things need to work logistically, and that's where shit starts to leak in... Obviously these risks gets bigger ones the main guy is gone.
That said, my previous rants all serve to express a wish for any such damage to be as limited as possible in the case of Tom, rather than being cheered for by hungry fans in for a quick fix. (Perhaps the remaining members of the band will push for fair and honest handeling of the legacy, to the extent that they have a say so - at least MC is bound to have some, thanks to songwriting and production creds). After all, there is no such thing as uncorrupted rock'n'roll, but with a legacy and history of integrity like Tom's, there should be good hope that at least the most commonly used rip-offs,  the most standard soul-less crap routines,  the most shallow exploitations and hurried decisions, will be largely avoided even by his hired hands. Amen.
As for issueing music, I may add that I personally think that any release of "new" stuff, that was prepared and ready to be released anyway (example: "All The Rest"), would be fine about this point. That type of this-is-what-I-had-ready type of releases are usually a lot more fair and honest, as I see it, more like a closing type of continuation (of that makes sense) than any memorial reissue or now-I'm-dead-now-I'm-hot-here's-my hits-again type of rehashed retrospect. After all, I am sure there will be plenty of time for all of us to buy, not only numerous reissues of all Tom's work, but also all kinds of official and unofficial "Free Fallin'" parachutes and "Even The Losers" poker sets. As much as I hate it, I could live with a certain Kiss:ness in the world. I just hope that as long as something is gonna have Tom's name or face on it, it won't pop up in my face within months of his passing, is all. It really rubs me the wrong way. I might be a bit old fashioned that way. 
Besides. Who would want to buy an unofficial parachute anyway?!
 
 

Love how well you expressed what I was thinking but was unable to put in words with such a flair  I would go a step further and just say that I would like to see not just Tom but his whole band (of introverts) as the ones that did not let the business machine outgrow their artistic vision, and stay consistent to what they have always been. That's why I think, let them grieve. Who can think of putting out stuff when they first try to get over the death of someone they loved? First that personal relationship. Then, art. Then, public. I guess my argument for that is also not very good, as it simply just makes me love this band  

^ There is a certain charm to that, admittedly. 
Still, I'm not sure I'm following... (Sorry, man, it might just be me misreading you here.. Although I really prefer to think of it as a very literal way of of reading what people say, rather than trying to guess their good intentions, of which I'm sure you have many. I just try to face what I read here, if perhaps in a disturbingly honest way. Sorry if that's the case.) See, even if I am not at all as much in a hurry, many of us seem to want kinda the same thing. To me though, it's more a matter of how it gets done and that they take their time to proceed in a respectful way, true to the name and methods of Tom, that they release fully worthy things that, more or less would have been released anyway, so to speak... than them rushing things out just cause Tom's death is so fresh on people's minds, that he's still fairly hot, as the market lingo has it.. (Jesus, why am I even writing things like that..!). Frankly, I couldn't care less about people with a minimal attention span anyway.. as far as that goes.
And following the discussion to precisely that aspect, I must say that what seemed like the initial plea made - for people who previously missed out on getting some of Tom's stuff (for various reasons), now when he's dead suddenly want it real bad (for equally various reasons, I am sure) and therefor should have said stuff asap - really is a MUCH better one (save for that dollars changing hands over caskets aspect, I mentioned, if things get rushed or done the wrong way), than this new idea here. Releasing stuff in order to keep infidels aware of Tom Petty?* Kinda of like a missionary approach? As if releasing stuff is supposed to fill some kinda vague cultural heritage obligation? A general good for generations to come, that Warner Brothers just have to put a milker on, I have to suppose?** 
Either way, your post serves to remind me, how thin the line can be between answering to a demand and creating one. Not that one is better than the other. But one is.
 
 
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* This is to devil's-advocating stuff a bit, I know. For the TP brand, it is obviously crucial not to lose it's luring power. That is the market logic you are touching upon in your post, surely. "The way things works!". (Ok, well..) But again, I like to see Tom at least a little bit as an exception to this "rule", that business takes priority nr uno over the artistic vision and output at a very distant second. Artistic production as a somewhat necessary mean to serve a greater financial good, with some fresh input from time to time, to keep things interesting. (As opposed to the other way around, where at times profit is a  great and lucky side effect to great art - and where artistic vision rules all, somewhat naively, but hello...) This, my friend, is why so many dead artists - I suppose - are in such a hurry to keep putting all these gold lined things and memorial this and that out. It's because they have long sinced stopped being an artist first and formost and instead they have become this huge business empire that runs accoring to its own logic, with you being the both the customer and the sucker. Sure some of them still was great artist when they passed away, but in those cases the machine they'd created around their brand long sinced had outgrown them, sidestepped them and taking on their own life and logic. Some big business didn't even learn how to exploit things properly until so many years after the face on the shirt went to the heavens, that it was practically like inventing a whole new career, only without the hassle of having to deal with an actual living guy. (Man, I really don't have to tell you all this, do I?)  --- Anyway. To all this, I see - I really want to see this!! - Tom Petty as a sound exception. A man of some type of dignity and sanity, that at least on the surface of it all, seemed able to combine being hugely popular, selling great numbers and still fly above at least some 90% of the bullshit aspects and ripping his fans off and other going-ons on the so call market. (Even if certain aspects of the HCC club in recent years was a borderline case of losing control and willingly inviting the "dark side", so to speak). The business side of show business always was one nasty bugger. A murky and sickening place where perfectly great geniuses have been known to be chewed to pieces and spit out as all kinds of nameless plastic. And - this speaks for the audiences as well - a dead artist always was all the more profitable to exploit than a living one. People really DO want more releases when an artist dies, it seems. You are so right that way. It's the same old life-as-an-afterthough, I suppose. A very human thing, on the face of it. Personally I am glad if "Tom Petty", now when Tom Petty is gone, can stay well above all this muck, that his management has the manners to treat his legacy with dignity, to put out well made stuff, reissue, what people seem to want the most and most of all that they won't engage in too much image-building, legacy building excercises that Tom himself would not have liked. After all - his work spoke for him all his life and so I hope it will continue to do. This, again, may be splitting hair to what you are about, but it seems to me to be one or two main differences between our perspectives worth pondering.
** I guess the discussion of how many future generations of relatives and shareholders, should be able to gain from one person's work, really is an interesting one, that applies somewhat, but really deserves its own discussion. Many contributors here - most of all the very much alive and very much wonderful Heartbreakers - of course deserve to get their earnings for the work the done on various levels, and that, my friend, is another, and even better argument for WB to release more stuff, when the time comes! Yes! You can have that one, if you want some more good stuff to back up your case!    

Thanks. The method I use is called databending and it's pretty fun. A similar thing, circuit bending, actually goes back to the 1960s when a guy accidentally shorted out a toy transistor amplifier and discovered that messing around with the circuitry inside of electronics could create some really weird and cool noises.
 I just made a big mess of the Long After Dark album cover:

I enjoy making glitch art of album covers. I take a picture of an album cover and then deliberately mess up or corrupt the file to create neat effects. See as such:

To those who think it is a scandal that something should be released to cash in on Tom's death.
Cue heavy response.......
Bear in mind Tom Petty (or those who ran things for him) were not adverse to the odd rip off.
Highway Companions Club charged $50 for dubious benefits, such as the early ticket access and the odd bonus track, and the other method to hear exclusive tracks was often the subscription radio network.....

I respect your opinion and sorry if you took my post wrong...  Is there any objection to at least reprinting things that have not been available for a long time?  Like the books "Conversations with Petty" or the coffee table book "Running Down a Dream"?  Some of us hadn't bought that and would like to buy it now.....as well as DVDs of some of his concerts such as Take the Highway.     Since Tom originally authorized those things, I see no reason to not put them out again for people to buy.     Perhaps any new things will take a while - but I think it would be nice to reprint some of the things that were out of print for many years.    Those books on Amazon are selling for "over the top" prices and I'm sure Tom would not be happy with those high prices as he is one of the few artists who really cared about his fans and making his concerts, books, DVDs, CDs, affordable for everyone.  He once said he didn't want to just appeal to the "elite" and from that day on, I loved him.  Actually I've loved his music since the late '70's.   Anyway, I'm new to this forum, but I'll limit my posting.  This forum is a great place though...and really enjoyed reading the different topics and news...and I think the photo thread is the greatest.  

I know he holds a special place in everyone’s heart here, but feel if they leave it too long, the wider public will just think “They have released something from that bloke who died a while back, he had a few hits in the 90s, didn’t he ?”
Do they even know what album “Room at the Top” was on ?
I don’t necessarily see these re-releases as just cashing in, but also saving a musical legacy.

Him being alive is what should have generated sales and popularity! And so it did. 
Sorry, but death as a marketing tool is f-ng ugly, if you excuse my language. Other artist's management may be trigger happy to reprint and market anything within "days/weeks", but one of the main reasons I loved Tom Petty in the first place is that his management won't. I hope that doesn't change now when Tom's own controlling hand is gone. Reading your post make me wish they will take even longer to release anything.
As for "All The Rest", it's been ready and waiting and even marketed since my granda was a young boys, so that one could really be released already, I agree that process has been ridiculous (even if I really understand a certain on-hold type of reasoning for the last few months). As for everything else, I say it's good that they just don't hurry to flood the market with all kinds of ugly stuff just cash in on death and on people being pathetic, loving and respecting dead artists over living ones. Seriously. Some respect. Some dignity. 

Man, that is a tough question!!
Well... I think.. all things considered.. and Mudcrutch tours aside.. that I'd have to go with the Great Wide Open Tour as well. Didn't catch it 'til the spring of 1992, but there sure was something special in the air around that time. But it's a tough call to make.. "they were always great".. true that.

^ What makes you think it's not the other way around? 
But, really, no, I haven't. I am a perfectly good original madman myself. 

By all means, don't limit yourself. All opinions are fine and more than welcome. 
And no, I have no objections as far as releasing old OR new stuff goes. (The whole issue of what and how people here think "stuff" will be made available, has been discussed in other threads, and I don't think anyone suggest that there should be a stop to releases.)
No, my only concern is the hurry. I may be wrong in finding the view in your post, that just cause others have been profiting in a gross way from the death of artists, within "days/week" as you say, the people dealing with Tom's business should do the same. Sorry, if that was not more or less what you said. Myself I find that type of behaviour - standard procedure as it might be these days - to be morally wicked and appalling. Hence my voicing of a different opinion. I also very much find the partying all the way to the bank atop someone's grave to be very counter to anything that Tom was about, as far as his morals go. 
All in good time, is all I'm saying. I don't wanna see any memorial issues being rushed, is all. 
As you were.

By all means, don't limit yourself. All opinions are fine and more than welcome. 
And no, I have no objections as far as releasing old OR new stuff goes. (The whole issue of what and how people here think "stuff" will be made available, has been discussed in other threads, and I don't think anyone suggest that there should be a stop to releases.)
No, my only concern is the hurry. I may be wrong in finding the view in your post, that just cause others have been profiting in a gross way from the death of artists, within "days/week" as you say, the people dealing with Tom's business should do the same. Sorry, if that was not more or less what you said. Myself I find that type of behaviour - standard procedure as it might be these days - to be morally wicked and appalling. Hence my voicing of a different opinion. I also very much find the partying all the way to the bank atop someone's grave to be very counter to anything that Tom was about, as far as his morals go. 
All in good time, is all I'm saying. I don't wanna see any memorial issues being rushed, is all. 
As you were.

Him being alive is what should have generated sales and popularity! And so it did. 
Sorry, but death as a marketing tool is f-ng ugly, if you excuse my language. Other artist's management may be trigger happy to reprint and market anything within "days/weeks", but one of the main reasons I loved Tom Petty in the first place is that his management won't. I hope that doesn't change now when Tom's own controlling hand is gone. Reading your post make me wish they will take even longer to release anything.
As for "All The Rest", it's been ready and waiting and even marketed since my granda was a young boys, so that one could really be released already, I agree that process has been ridiculous (even if I really understand a certain on-hold type of reasoning for the last few months). As for everything else, I say it's good that they just don't hurry to flood the market with all kinds of ugly stuff just cash in on death and on people being pathetic, loving and respecting dead artists over living ones. Seriously. Some respect. Some dignity. 

Opening night.
Chesapeake Energy Arena, Oklahoma City, OK
 
1. Rockin' Around With You
2. Mary Jane
3. You Don't Know How It Feels
4. Forgotten Man
5. You Got Lucky
6. I Won't Back Down
7. Free Fallin
8. American Dream Plan B
9. Walls
10. It's Good To Be King
11. Don't Come Around Here No More
12. Wildflowers
13. Something Good Coming
14. Time To Move On
15. Learning To Fly
16. Yer So Bad
17. I Should Have Known It.
18. Refugee
19. Running Down A Dream
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20. You Wreck Me
21. American Girl.
 
That's it? That's correct? Anyone was there? Way cool song to kick off the tour, IMO.
 

this was a bit odd.. but rocking
 
 

^wtf! that is rather.. fantastic! thanks for posting!
not the widest range or power, there, it seems, but what a great character in the voice and what a solid performance! I had no idea!

Something else, with a great touch:
 
 

This beauty is labeled his "new single"... Great job, I say! Amazing song!
 

Yeah.. even considering the change in money value, this development pretty much killed rock'n'roll dead. What we have is a pimped ghost of what used to be wild and raw. And for most part, that about as much as most people can take these days, anyway. We've been numbed out... sad to say.