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^ Much deserved and very much way way overdue, yeah!

Cool -- Thanks for this cool tidbit of information! I didn't see that quite coming, but considering how the HCC:ers got screwed on their exclusive bonus in 2011, I'm not overly surprised that it's happening again. Rehash. Still cool to be able to get this stuff on vinyl, of course. Re: The Mudcrutch 7", I am all the more, not to say extremely, excited to finally see a bit of artwork and to get two new titles.. Or perhaps Trailer is not a new title.. which would make it really exciting anyway!! (At 5.000 copies, by Mudcrutch standards, is that really that limited though..? ) This one I look forward to! Especially if at least one of the two songs are not gonna be taken from the album, the way it should be with these things..

Had this "lost" LP on repeat here for a few days and what strikes me as the most amazing thing with it, is that it outrank most, if not all, of the other MGM years recordings. Maybe it's the novelty of it, surfacing like this, but for most parts I hold the MGM years to be Roy's "dark ages" - I much prefer the Monument years (early and later) as well as the Asylum and Virgin recordings myself - and hence I got very surprised how strong this stuff is and how utterly sad they kept it vaulted for so long.. The best MGM stuff and it didn't show until 2015! Amazing. (Makes me wonder how people will regard "All The Rest" once it gets released in 2031?)

Too bad.. Sad to hear it. All the more reason for Mudcrutch now, to perhaps pick up an honorary cover song or two this summer..

Sure, I heard the Rhino Skin version from Burgetts Town, '99. I got to that recording kinda late (just last year, was it..) but then almost forgot about it all the more quick, since it's not - not to my impression and not according to your view either apparently - working quite right. That doesn't mean that it couldn't or shouldn't work, IMO. (That is, the audience may have been right not be floored by the version, but any audience that does not appreciate a song pick like this, does not deserve to be allowed access to their seats, in accordance with the saying about pearls and swine, the should-be artistic integrity of the band and so on and so forth.) As you say, there are better ways to treat a song like this and I just meant I believe they need to try it again. The sooner the better. It's been 17 years... It could IMO go very well back to back - or even in an groovy "medley" type set up - with Shadow People? - Or in a stripped down acoustic high harmony rearrangement for that matter). It's just among the most underrated (I think) songs in the catalogue and it could and should work live. And, again on topic: Well.. it's funny. I still have a few major issues with the total of the album, as is. But, if I had a vinyl printing facility handy (or even just a cd-burner, which accidentally I do) the above suggested cut (or something similar to it, containing said material), to me personally, would easily have Mojo equal Hypnotic Eye, and thus rise from a problematic mess with a masterpiece core, to a tight and explosive full blown modern classic, belonging in the top four or five albums TP ever put his name on. That just goes to show how extremely important seemingly secondary issues like sequencing and, shall we say efficacy, are to me. (Just as great songs, when combined perfectly with other great songs, add up to a total that is even bigger than the sum of its parts, it doesn't take too many "fumbles" to start to draw off such a total, so that even a bunch of admittedly huge parts can't quite hold a total that equals their own sum of greatness.. I'm not sure that is how you say this, but.. I hope you see what I mean. Moreover, I think I said it before and I think I will keep on saying it.. Mojo, to me, is one of the best examples ever of how this works.)

^ No, unfortunately, and I share your hopes. And generally speaking.. 4 months into this spectacle.. it's still Looking for Daddy (and Mystery of Love, sure) in terms of exclusive unreleased studio cuts and that's it?

I often dreamt that one day we'll get to hear TP&TH roll out a semi-long jam heavy Rhino Skin!

To me the premise of this thread holds a lot of merit. Like we've been touching upon in the past.. (I thought this had a certain sense of dejavu, and sure enough.. here it is ) Over in that thread I was trying a bit of Re:Mojo:ing myself and I came up with these songs, here rearranged once more to fit the two sides of the preferable and much groovier vinyl LP, rather than just listing them CD or streaming style, the way I did last time. As always CD and LP sequencing are two very different artforms. ("Hello CD listeners.." and all that... and as is sometimes the case, some things once acknowledged and honored don't really get followed up in real life.) Anyway.. here goes my Mojo LP cut A: 01. First Flash of Freedom 02. Running Man's Bible 03. Little Girl Blues 04. No Reason to Cry 05. High in The Morning B 01. I Should Have Known It 02. Trip to Pirate's Cove 03. Mystery of Love 04. Something Good Coming 05. Good Enough I love that ending and thought they got it right to begin with! Then I would, just perhaps and under severe pressure, consider letting myself go and let Let Yourself Go and US41 (the latter with more drive and without the voice filter is so, like I've mentioned in the past) on the record to make it an even 12. But given the play length of your average LP side, and in general, I stand my ground on these 10. Mojo is a far too unfocused and long album to work, yet it holds some of the best sound and songs in the catalogue so it really is among the LPs that benefits from a remake and this is my go at having it optimized.

^ Amen to all that. More or less. We've been over this many times in many ways and most of you know my stand. What TP is about in songwriting and studio on the one hand and what he is about on tour on the other, have grown to become two vastly different things. Artist and Entertainer. From all existing evidence that's a good and obvious breakdown. (This can be confusing at times, hearing him talk at times, when you realize that TP either really and truly associates himself with the Artist rather than the hits parade Entertainer in the live situation as well, or he basically just lies in the name of image or self deception, regarding how wide they go in their on stage song selection and how deep they dig, how many songs they have rehearsed - 50 or 60 or 70 songs rehearsed to be able to repeat 18 on a nightly basis, plus a few one timers - and all that.) Sure it's easy to be disappointed and difficult to keep track of what we really are discussing at times - if it is the actual failed potential of the band and the catalog, if it is the discrepancies between words and action or what is it? To me both of these aspects have become growing disappointments. I think none is questioning the abilities, the sound, the groove and the skill.. and that the boundaries for the imagination and greatness of this band is quite far beyond where TP usually decides it is when on tour. Ok.. so an old worn issue it is.. But agreed, it is so much fun to ponder what could be done by this great band if they dropped about two standards every night in order to pull out some fantastic cover version or deep track of their own. That's really all it takes to achieve a totally different approach to the live set really. No one questions that they need to play a couple of the hits each night, at least in the big arenas, in front of a mixed audience, but for one thing: perhaps people are not as unappreciative of their deeper sides as they think.. and for another: when playing smaller, more intimate gigs - something, in terms of being "artistic", they need to do a lot more - I don't see why they can't let go of the handrail and let their freak flag fly. Let it all hang out, so to speak.. ) Oh, my my.. don't know why I can't help but being drawn into this discussion every now and then.. I guess it's cause I am as "fed up" as martin in this.. And because I too like to ponder the beyonds of the imagination and possibilities of the greatest band in the world at times.. Why limit yourself to a 90% traveling jukebox when you have Benmont Tench and Mike Campbell in your band?? That is something that will always beat me, no matter what some crowdpleasing market strategies of processed sugars will ever say, sorry. I am fairly convinced that you don't have to do stuff this way. There is plenty room for a lot more Artistic in this equation, don't tell me there is not, don't tell me there isn't enough rock stars that does this better than TP and that TP doesn't have enough integrity to pull it off..! It's really one big... void.. discrepancy.. sure.. enigma. That too. Ok. My rant is over too.. Yeah, that goes without saying, as far as I'm concerned. And I hope and think most of us would agree. Besides.. that is still hundreds, if not thousands of songs that we are considering here.. right.. That said, taste differs and to each their own fantasies.

Musically, I don't mind it either.. What's subpar to me is the lyrics and the vocals, none of which are even close to match the rest of the album. IMO. RE: Wild Eyes. It's actually the b-side of the Depot Street 7"single. Hence supposedly recorded in LA in and officially released in 1975. This song is one of my all time favorites in the TP catalog. (So, a very well sounding recording of it exists in my record collection! ) But as much as I love it, I'm not sure a today's version would be the best idea. I used to think so, but I've grown doubtful if it would be that easily made to fit the current vibe, but who knows..

Very good question -- I have no idea. Or rather, I have many.. I'm certainly no pro in these things, can't tell a lot of models from each other by ear, but I have to agree that Ric 360 has a favorite tone, both the 6 and 12 strings versions in different ways. As for recordings of unknown (to me, that is) guitar brands and models, I always cherish some of the grit that Jack White can accomplish (at times, supposedly, with very cheap equipment too) or the likes of Junior Wells, Link Wray. Classic sounds commonly made by the likes of Howlin Wolf or Elmore James, I like a lot. Or twelve string sounds of Blind Willie McTell and Leadbelly. And then.. despite rough recordings, what's not to like about Stellas or Oscar Smith Hawaiian (supposedly?!) and other vintage instruments, used by legends like Charlie Patton and Blind Willie Johnson. On the other hand.. their greatness rarely depended on the guitar make I guess.. It's all about touch and imagination. In the TP catalogue, right now I'm very taken by the little things in MC's work on Lookin' for Daddy. A masterful recording with lots of unusual aspects it seems. That hardly answered the question, did it?

^ Exactly that. I agree. No point doing what TPATH already does or been doing. Really not. In that sense "trying something new" within the rock frame, would be hazardous in this case.. you don't want them to lose that certain sharp looseness, the small, spontaneous and southern tinged rock thing that are so uniquely theirs after all. Keep within the certain Mudcrutch frame, I say, or by all means, expand beyond, down any untrodden path - although, I have a hard time thinking what that would be. I suppose "country" in a more straight sense would be one way to go, but I'm not sure that would feel authentic either.. Some sort of Jack White:ish gritty roots thing could perhaps work.. Well, I suppose my answer would be that as long as they keep it authentically Mudcrutch, I'm sure I'm gonna love it. More of the same is not an option of course, but on an overall level.. more of the same is more than fine in this case, since it will be a developed, upgraded and diversified version of same, no doubt? As long as they stopped Tom II from writing another stupid song like the Queen of The Go-Go Girls, I'm sure I'll be.. laughing while I work, to quote a phrase..

I was just gonna.. but you beat me to it. They also did it at the Vic in 2003, no? Either way, that song is one of their finest moments in my book. So, sure more Kinks! Count me in with the choir. I always use to mention how good the fit is and would be. And speaking of what I use to mention.. more Animals. Always good. And more down right raw and gritty than most B.I. bands as far as I'm concerned. Not that I don't like the other ones enormously, but Animals were the nasty outfit. Perfect for the twang and the drawl. Not to mention how their stuff gives Ben a free spin. Count me to the yay! sayers on that too. How about Alabama Shakes?? "Hold One" could be killer with TP vocals, no? Or perhaps a wild go at Courtney Barnett..? And like I've said before: There really are a few titles among the Creedence and/or Fogerty material that Mudcrutch could let their swagger gator tear apart... The feast!!

Wow, yeah! That is great stuff. Thanks guys, for the heads up.. and the links! Somehow my radar failed to beep when that one flew by. Awesome bunch of songs!

Interesting discussion. Me too tend to suspect (and personally, I kinda agree) that Heartbreakers stuff is "off limits". With the occasional TP solo, old original Mudcrutch, a variety of cool covers and two full albums of songs.. I have no problem imagining a quite fantastic set! Someone mentioned the m.... word.. Well, if you are a band that are per definition not mainstream.. once you are booked and paid to play, I say screw that crowd. They are rats anyway.

Whoa.. yeah. This is all very exciting!! The questions I have is mostly along the lines of how on earth I will be able to arrange a US trip with such a semi-short notice? How and when will the actual album be here (would be good to have it out in semi-well ahead of time for those dates, to give it a fair chance so to speak.. which would mean that at least the word would be official within.. pretty much yesterday, right?) Like it's said just above.. "it's a good problem to have".. but now I am really eager to hear the new material. I'll try not to keep my expectations through the roof, though.. but it's hard, considering last time around. On a related matter.. I guess this also means that All The Rest is now officially buried? At least until fall or next year, when whatever little hype or momentum it had among TP fans will long since also be resting peacefully six feet under... Man, was that a bummer and failure..

That is a question I've had the reason to ask myself many time in previous years.. I don't see, at all, how and why TP & co benefit from allowing their name and brand to be handled by and associated with people like that. The horror.. anyways.. let's not ruin our moods in the face of exciting news!

^ Interesting..! Since this means, that at least by late May then, we'll might get to hear some new material finally.. this makes me climb the walls in excitement! Hopefully the whole album will be out in time for this May date too. I've learned not to expect anything in these matters........................ and from what I can tell.. no release date is officially set yet, so.. Also this.. About 15 months ago, I thought I saw something of a new move at the official Mudcrutch site.. but I was wrong.. Now, again.. I think something is up.. although it's odd how the page has the same mini-icon (whatever that word is?) symbol as this one.. Puzzling.. but at least seems like a new take on the old logo, or am I the fool again..?! Check it out: http://www.mudcrutchmusic.com/index.html These guys sure know how to mosey the news in a most secretive and manner..

Adding some fuel to this slow burning thread.. Another take at the classic. Back in those early 80s days, SN could really handle her straight up TP covers (somewhat better than today, that is..). Swing and swagger. And once more, Ben is in the house too..

Yeah, right? And such a cool name of a group too.. I love this sound, it works miracles for my ears! However, not nuts for material nor vocals ( - slightly generic, no?) Kudos for the little loans from Cream in the opening song, though. Must say. The future is wide open..

Just stumbled upon this.. somewhat related to the topic at hand.. I find these recordings very interesting and great sounding not to forget. Anyhow, it's another aspect/connection of the TP-world we dwell in here and how it himself unknowingly connected to Del Shannon already a long time ago..

Great, thanks for info!

Thanks for the update! (As for what it implies, I have myself down on the floor, tied up.. not to allow myself a much appropriate sarcastic blurt.)

^ I second that. Besides.. the close up of TP when he speaks.. about how good life's been to him.. looking at those eyes of Howie's behind him.. well.. it breaks my heart every time.

Any news from this venture lately? Any interesting TP info or news shared on the air? Any new cool live or studio rarities played? Guests? Anything? Must be something. After all people pay through their noses for this service so I suppose they don't get same old each day, right? Anyway - from my horizon it all looks dark and quiet. So please bring light if there is any to be had, share news - much appreciated!.