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  1. ECHO - the most real, honest, genuine heartfelt album.

  2. TPATH Guests

    Was this from the Fillmore shows? What did you think of Frank Black and the Catholics opening for TPATH? cheers
  3. Thoughts on the Two TPATHS

    Another way to put is the energy is different in the songs from WF on; I think the all out fast song they record and release is Zero From Outer Space, it's a feel. Oh, I guess Saving Grace counts. The songs aren't all mellow, but hover around the midtempo, some are longer, sometimes it feels like there's more emphasis on Tom as songwriter guy with guitar in front of the band than as part of the whole. But more, it's just a feeling, a shift in songwriting style. Sure, some of it was on ITGWO, like Dark of the Sun, I could see that appearing on Echo. While it wasn't a shift I liked at the time, I can appreciate it more now and pick up on different things happening in the songs that I hadn't noticed before. It's like that with a variety of art, you pick up a book that didn't connect years later and notice all sorts of things, etc. I think the mellow numbers from Southern Accents or Hard Promises are still different from what happened from WF onwards. They did mellow numbers before but I feel the band overall became more of a mix of mellow numbers and heavier groove numbers from WF onward. It's another reason why Hypnotic Eye was probably viewed as a callback to their earlier records, while the songs weren't like the old songs, they had more of that upbeat rocking energy that the material from WF through Mojo largely didn't. Oh yeah of course and there seemed like there were other issues that maybe one could call immaturity in a crazy context. My point was that the live show has a lot of songs from Stan's time with the band; true, a lot of Full Moon Fever and Wildflowers but between the older songs he played on and new songs had he stayed with the band, the bulk of the shows would be ones Stan recorded. A largely pointless speculation. I like Steve's drumming, I enjoy some of the live concerts from that period of time and particularly enjoy the heaviness that carried over from Mojo. The thread belongs to everyone! Nice, I like 'em. cheers
  4. Question of the day 10/14/17

    Looking back at the shows I've seen, with one exception there was usually four years between tours, so each time I saw them there was a new feel to the show, with a bunch of songs I'd not heard performed before in addition to the usuals. But beyond the songs, the overall feel of some was different. ITGWO had the most elaborate stage show and my sentimental favorite with the giant tree. Wildflowers felt more like a garage band on stage than a world famous group. Echo had a completely different vibe to it, the band in fancy coats (or at least Mike and Tom) that made the whole show seem almost ethereal, power chords contrasting with their clothing, yet somehow making the whole thing feel different, unusual. The last two tours I caught didn't have any real different feel, just a band on stage. Elaborate fairy-tale stage or simple lighting and carpeting, it's the music that counts. With so much space between seeing them, each time felt refreshingly new. I still remember the first time they played Jammin' Me, a song I never thought I'd hear them play. But before '06 I had more of a feel for what they were or weren't going to play and while those last two shows have some highlights, the level of joy I experienced before was gone.
  5. Tributes and covers from peers and writers

    http://www.charlestonmusichall.com/event/1574610-black-jacket-symphony-present-charleston/ NS2, EMPORIUM & CMH PRESENT: THE BLACK JACKET SYMPHONY PRESENT TOM PETTY'S "DAMN THE TORPEDOES" THU · FEBRUARY 1, 2018 DOORS: 7:00 PM / SHOW: 8:00 PM $25.00 TIER 2 | $35.00 TIER 1 ON SALE FRI · OCTOBER 20, 2017 10:00 AM EDT Dinner & Show option available for an additional $32 Call for reservations after purchasing Dinner & Show option Dinner at Vincent Chicco's - (843) 203-3002 Dinner at Virginia's on King - (843) 735-5800 CLICK HERE for Details and Menu Options Tickets can also be purchased at Music Hall Box Office: 37 John Street (843) 853-2252 | Monday - Friday (10 am - 3 pm) Ticketfly Hotline: (877) 987-6487 | Everyday (10 am - 9 pm) THE BLACK JACKET SYMPHONY The Black Jacket Symphony offers a unique concert experience through recreating classic albums in a live performance setting. A selected album is performed in its entirety by a group of handpicked musicians specifically selected for each album, with no sonic detail being overlooked--the musicians do whatever it takes to musically reproduce the album. The performance is separated into two sets. The first set features the album being recreated as a true symphonic piece. The second set, which features a selection of the album artist's "greatest hits," opens in full contrast to the first set with an incredible light display and the symphony being much more laid back. The tone is set very quickly that the show will feature the high level of musicianship of the act being covered and will also be accompanied by all the bells and whistles of a major rock and roll show.
  6. Tributes and covers from peers and writers

  7. Thoughts on the Two TPATHS

    My point was more age wasn't as much a deciding factor otherwise they would've completely transitioned to a more bluesy-groove oriented band instead of the hyper outro solos of Runnin' and American Girl, let alone their other uptempo numbers. It seems like Tom naturally evolved which was healthy for the band overall. I respect Tom and the band for not pandering or falling into a rut when it comes to the records, even if some of what they released didn't appeal to me. cheers
  8. Thoughts on the Two TPATHS

    I understand. As an exception to many, and while not a punk I don't think but I saw footage of Iggy Pop recently, nearly 70, running around the stage and singing Lust For Life; which is inspiring. I wonder if he had toughed it out, considering how few new songs they'd generally play live he could've maybe enjoyed being on stage with them still. And with time, would've adapted or found something to enjoy with the mellower numbers, etc. No, it's more the songwriting that Tom did, which is why the change seems so prominent. If She's The One is largely unused Wildflowers tracks, the next two Heartbreakers records are Echo & The Last Dj, which seem to be in more of this newer, mellower (to a degree) style than before. It's as if Tom somehow reinvented the band which is interesting. Now the lack of new singles could've just been a natural thing that would've happened all along; but it's interesting that this style of songwriting, aside from Wildflowers and I guess, Walls, isn't what the band is really associated with. I like both styles though, most of the live shows I listen to are with Steve on the drums and I find a lot of good tracks among both; and even with the change in style, which may have been something Tom was heading towards but seems abrupt and nearly uniformly distinct across records, there's still something different about them that they maintain which keeps them from sounding like their other contemporaries, like Seger, Springsteen, etc.
  9. The Last Dj---what works what doesn't

    I have to be in the mood for that song. Reading this topic again had me listening to some of the album, but my opinion has stayed the same. It's disappointing considering the theme, the Last Dj, album and song feel like it's the start of something fantastic but it never gets there.
  10. Covers of Tom Petty songs

  11. Covers of Tom Petty songs

  12. Thoughts on the Two TPATHS

    Sure, that makes sense. But it's not as if the majority of the songs necessarily had to become more mellow or simply groove oriented; and as a counter example I'll point to the live shows where they continued to play uptempo numbers like Runnin', Need To Know, Refugee, You Wreck Me, American Girl, Driving Down to Georgia, Black Leather Woman, etc. without losing a step. I agree; and I think it's a subject worthy of its own topic. There's a level of weirdness in TPATH's music that is rarely mentioned. I think without this they'd be more like Springsteen, Bob Seger, etc. Instead they've recorded Luna, Don't Do Me Like That with the surprising double-time bridge, Don't Come Around, It Ain't Me, It's Rainin' Again, MyLife/Your World, Full Grown Boy, Money Becomes King and others I can't recall at this moment. Nicely phrased. Really? I find that difficult to believe as you've definitely commented on the style and subtleties of Stan Lynch's drumming, etc. Yeah, I sometimes forget about Into the Great Wide Open (good album cover) as the last hurrah with Stan. I think Full Moon Fever influenced ITGWO and while it's not as good of a record, it still has a lot of high points. Sure there was nothing really different about them doing another rock record but...one should never underestimate the power of a good rock song which most of his album has. Aside from some of Let Me Up, I don't think they'd record another proper rock-n-roll album in any way similar in vibe if not execution like the first three records till Hypnotic Eye, which certainly shouldn't count as repeating themselves! cheers
  13. The Last Dj---what works what doesn't

    Do you think it worked as a concept? As a story with characters? Or as a general feeling? Both? Neither? I haven't watched that in a long time, probably not since it came out. Great version of Mary Jane in the encore, though!