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WreckMeBaby
04-14-2008, 01:24 PM
I see for the Malibu setlist that they didn't play any Petty songs... do you think this will be true for all of the shows? I would love if he'd play "I Won't Back Down" or "Runnin' Down a Dream" and am actually surprised that he didn't play anything. I know Mudcrutch is it's own band, but hey, who better to cover Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers than Tom Petty and three two of the Heartbreakers!

Thoughts?

I'm going to the Saturday show, the Tuesday 29th show and the Friday May 2nd show at the Troubadour. I'm thinking those shows will be different as they are the last of the tour and a historic setting...

Anybody else hoping he plays Petty songs, or is that just asking too much?

Refugee
04-14-2008, 01:47 PM
^ I don't mean to offend you, but why would you go see Mudcrutch hoping for TP&TH songs?

Anyways...this is a tidbit from an recent article.

Although three-fifths of Mudcrutch are Heartbreakers, both Campbell and Tench emphasize that Mudcrutch is its own entity, with a distinct rhythmic feel and a pronounced country influence - thanks in large part to the presence of Leadon, brother of Bernie Leadon of Eagles fame. The band won't be playing any Heartbreakers material on tour - not even songs like "Don't Do Me Like That" that started as Mudcrutch tunes. The guys will be focused on the 14 songs from the album - including eight new Petty songs - and a few choice covers. (Campbell says they're having fun with an old Stones tune and Jerry Lee Lewis' "High School Confidential.")

I think that answers your question.

WreckMeBaby
04-14-2008, 02:16 PM
Ummm, yeah I would go to see Mudcrutch hoping to hear a Tom Petty song because, umm, yeah - it's Tom Petty. The guy has a 35 year career and he's going to play songs from one album that nobody knows - cool - but I along with many people would like to hear Mudcrutch play Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers songs. We're talking about a two person difference between the HB and Mudcrutch, lets not get ridiculous and pretend that it's not Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers playing Mudcrutch songs. What's the difference?

Okay - so I read the article you attached. Fine, he doesn't want to play Tom Petty songs - whatever - I think it's a gnarly idea not playing any TPATH songs, but whatever. Mudcrutch is 'okay' but seems quickly thrown together and probably just a way to warm everyone up before the TPATH tour - - which is always amazing. I value the creative decisions placed behind soley putting every effort into Mudcrutch for this short tour, but undoubtedly people want to hear songs from Petty's catalouge. I do. I'm no ashamed of it - it's reasonable to want to hear Tom Petty play Tom Petty. When Paul McCartney goes on tour, he plays Beatles songs. When Stevie Nicks goes on tour she plays Fleetwood Mac songs. When the Artist Formally Known as Prince goes on tour, he plays Prince songs. Haha.

Well I'll be the butthole screaming "I Won't Back Down" at the Troubadour, shameless and insistent - THEY'RE RIGHT THERE! Just put your little fingers on the EM chord and lets get it started - so easy. I mean come on Tom Petty, it's 3 minutes and at your disposal -- just play the songs we love to hear.

Refugee
04-14-2008, 02:21 PM
^ I see Mike Campbell with his band, The Dirty Knobs, believe me, I never expect or want to hear TP&TH songs, and I'm very glad he doesn't play them. It's nice to see these men playing something other than the same old songs.

But...that's just me. :)

Starfish
04-14-2008, 02:26 PM
and me!

How disrepectful to show up at a Mudcrutch show and yell for a Tom Petty song. Buy a ticket for the Heartbreakers and sell your Mudcrutch ticket to someone who might appreciate it!

Athena
04-14-2008, 02:36 PM
This reminds me of a guy I was talking to at the Malibu show who had the attitude that with all the money he spent he "deserved" to have them play TPATH songs. I explained to him the band is Mudcrutch, not TPATH.

I agree with Starfish. It would be rude to yell out for TPATH songs. Please don't ruin the experience for the rest of us.

WreckMeBaby
04-14-2008, 02:54 PM
I don't understand how someone yelling a Tom Petty song at Tom Petty could possibly ruin anybody's concert going experience... but we'll have to find out if it does!

I do have tickets to TPATH fyi - and at that show I expect I'll be screaming "Scare Easy" now, just to prove a point.

I'm entitled to my opinion, I can't sell my tickets fool as you have to show up at the door with your ID and credit card. Not to mention I deserve to go as much or more than anyone else - Troubadour is walking distance from my place. That alone merits screaming for the song I want. It's my neighborhood! lol.

Originally this started as a question, but now I feel forced to take a position on this - enhance the experience for everyone and include some TPATH songs on the setlist. Any new band from Gainesville, FL that was deemed "Southern Rockers" would probably cover a Tom Petty song in their set anyways - - BUT THIS BAND INCLUDES TOM PETTY - SO, LIKE DUH!

Refugee
04-14-2008, 03:02 PM
Curious, have you ever met any of the Heartbreakers?

Echosoftom
04-14-2008, 03:06 PM
^ Very well said ladies! How rude and disrespectful.

Okay, I'm sorry, what IS wrong with people? I swear, if I hear one idiot in the crowd around me say..."When are they going to play Freefallin' or Runnin' Down A Dream?" I'm gonna lose it.

AND, how refreshing and COOL was it to see Benmont doing something totally different from the Heartbreakers at Largo's?

AmyLou
04-14-2008, 03:18 PM
Lets not get ridiculous and pretend that it's not Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers playing Mudcrutch songs. What's the difference? :eek:

Ok, if you have ALL the band members from both on the stage at one time, which would be quite interesting from a drum perspective, dueling basses etc., then I can see the songs being interchanged. But it's NOT the Heartbreakers without the full band, just like it wouldn't be Mudcrutch without TomL and Randall.
To suggest otherwise is disrepectful to both bands.

Zombie Zookeeper
04-14-2008, 03:27 PM
I hear ya!! How dare they not cover Tom Petty songs!! Who do they think they are.. a completely different band? I shouldn't have to wait a month or two to hear a Petty song live. I went to a Foo Fighters concert once and screamed for 45 minutes straight but they REFUSED to play Nirvana!! What a bunch of dicks! I was PISSED when I bought the re-released Traveling Wilburys set and there wasn't one Beatles song on it! What a load of crap! Not even Pretty Woman by Roy Orbison. I threw it out immediately.

Echosoftom
04-14-2008, 03:32 PM
^ LMAOOOOOOOOO!!!

Refugee
04-14-2008, 03:35 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Love you, ZZ! :heart:

AmyLou
04-14-2008, 03:38 PM
uh oh - now you've got him started! :)

WreckMeBaby
04-14-2008, 03:39 PM
Zombie Zookeeper has the best response so far - I threw out my Traveling Wilbury CD when I realized that Bob Dylan was really named Robert Zimmerman, I mean come on Sybill, whom am I actually listening to?

Petty is Mudcrutch. Petty is Petty. Petty is Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. Petty is not going to play "I Won't Back Down" at the Troubadour, except when he gives in to my constant chat between songs, "Won't Back Down! Won't Back Down! Won't Back Down!" Then he will, cause he's gravy like that. I didn't know there were so many rules and moral lines in rock-n-roll, I thought I'd eat a few shrooms and go down the street to see Tom Petty? Wtf is wrong with me that I was so off? Geeze, guess rock-n-rolls as corporate as Wal-Mart these days, I always saw Tom Petty as a person and if this person can do something I want them to do I am going to ask. That simple. Guess I was wrong. I guess I should respect that he is not Tom Petty the person, but Tom Petty the member of the bad Mudcrutch and then when I see him again at the bowl he'll be Tom Petty with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers - geeze, I better write all this down so I don't mix it up! How embarrassing it would be for me to confuse Tom Petty of Mudcrutch with Tom Petty of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers! That'd be ultra foolish! I'd be laughed out of the Troubadour for coming up with something so ridiculous.

Good news is - his show at Troubadour will be different - - he'll play some TPATH songs, cuz he's not regulated by the Bands Must Play Only Bands Own Material Even If Band Members Are Ultra Famous Musicians With A 30 Year Catalog To Choose From law.

"Well you can't turn him in to a company man, no you can't turn him into a whore."

KansasPettyFan
04-14-2008, 05:53 PM
Constant chat between songs in a small club? That might get you put back on the streets of your neighborhood.

ZZ.....:043:

WildflowerNJ
04-14-2008, 06:06 PM
ZZ.....LOL!!

I will be at 2 of the shows at the Troubadour...and I can't wait to hear Mudcrutch!!!! I have been listening to those songs so much now....I can't wait!!

agirl
04-14-2008, 06:38 PM
LMAO, ZZ. I can't believe anyone would go a Mudcrutch show and yell out for a TPATH song. I don't know why I would be surprised though. The world is full of idiots.

Marion
04-14-2008, 07:03 PM
http://www.mudcrutch.com/honeybees/images/smiles/lame.bmp

Mudcrutch
04-14-2008, 08:35 PM
Two questions:

1. How do you think the original Mudcrutch members feel if you yell out for Tom Petty songs?
2. Mike himself said it is great to be playing non-tpath stuff. Why doesn't the band get a say in what they play?

and finally -- they are doing a HUGE TPATH TOUR. go to the shows this summer.

Tara
04-14-2008, 08:43 PM
Dude, you can't be serious. Don't be a drag. That's heckling as far as I'm concerned. Even if you don't mean it to come across that way the band will interpret it as such.

I'm there to see Mudcrutch...there'll be plenty of opportunity to hear the hits during the TPATH tour.

SingsInFrench
04-14-2008, 09:17 PM
I hear ya!! How dare they not cover Tom Petty songs!! Who do they think they are.. a completely different band? I shouldn't have to wait a month or two to hear a Petty song live. I went to a Foo Fighters concert once and screamed for 45 minutes straight but they REFUSED to play Nirvana!! What a bunch of dicks! I was PISSED when I bought the re-released Traveling Wilburys set and there wasn't one Beatles song on it! What a load of crap! Not even Pretty Woman by Roy Orbison. I threw it out immediately.

:081::043::082: Well said!

Magnolia
04-14-2008, 11:46 PM
Zombie, you're the GREATEST. You said exactly what I was thinking but said it so much better than I could have!
Counting down to Santa Barbara...... :045: Woo-hoo!

Dynabeat Tim
04-15-2008, 07:00 AM
I can see a little of both points here. Would anyone want to see Mudcrutch, if Tom Petty and the guys never made it big ? But as a artist doesn't Tom deserve to have some "fun" with his career ? I think you should respect the artist's wish, especially since they have made it known this is not TP & the HB's, and save your requests for when you see them. Go to see Mudcrutch and enjoy the experience of the night.

Wingspan91089
04-15-2008, 07:20 AM
^I agree....and to repeat what everyone else was saying WMB, you're going to see Mudcrutch, not TPATH. :rolleyes:

LMAO ZZ! :D:D:D:D

Nylle
04-15-2008, 09:04 AM
I'm REALLY glad I won't be at the Troubadour on April 29 or May 2.

WildflowerNJ
04-15-2008, 09:46 AM
Oh Ellyn, I am sorry you say that....I am hoping the 29th will be a great show...and that is my Birthday.....:)

I am excited about these shows.....the Troubadour has such history....I can't wait!!

Nylle
04-15-2008, 10:31 AM
^ oh, sorry, Beth - not directed at you. I sincerely hope no wenis in the audience is yelling I Won't Back to Down all night at your show.

Tara
04-15-2008, 10:45 AM
I know...I'm gonna be there on the 29th and if I hear someone screaming "I Won't Back Down" throughout the set there's gonna be a beat down, lol.

acomplexkid
04-15-2008, 11:00 AM
I can see a little of both points here. Would anyone want to see Mudcrutch, if Tom Petty and the guys never made it big ? But as a artist doesn't Tom deserve to have some "fun" with his career ? I think you should respect the artist's wish, especially since they have made it known this is not TP & the HB's, and save your requests for when you see them. Go to see Mudcrutch and enjoy the experience of the night.

well said, Tim.

I can see the point of what's-his-name who started this thread to some extent. it's NOT unreasonable to expect Tom Petty to play a Tom Petty song. but to demand it IS unreasonable and also disrespectful. frankly, I think it will be refreshing not to hear the same songs I've heard TPATH do 10,000 freaking times live.

I'll be the one yelling, "Freebird," which is just as appropriate to a Mudcrutch show as "Free Fallin;" i.e. not at all.

wild1forever
04-15-2008, 12:20 PM
Zombie, LMAO!!!! :icon_laugh:

We're talking about a two person difference between the HB and Mudcrutch, lets not get ridiculous and pretend that it's not Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers playing Mudcrutch songs. What's the difference?
There is QUITE a difference. Geez, if you want to hear TPATH songs, go to a TPATH show. How hard is that?

WreckMeBaby
04-15-2008, 02:34 PM
Nobody wants to hear Mudcrutch play just Mudcrutch (unless your die-hard physcopath that thinks that everything the artist you love or does is right and you blindly follow... hmm can you say blind religous faith being misplaced?). They want to hear Tom Petty. It's just a fact - life's too short - get over it!

WreckMeBaby
04-15-2008, 02:43 PM
I REST MY CASE?:

Tom Petty, Mudcrutch fail to impress
By Jim Harrington
MediaNews Staff
Article Launched: 04/15/2008 06:44:10 AM PDT

Mudcrutch is not just Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers by another name. It's more like Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers minus all the really good songs.
Imagine going to a Heartbreakers show and having the band only play from "The Last DJ" or "Highway Companion" and you get a sense for what it was like to attend the Mudcrutch concert on Monday night at the Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium. It'll likely be the same story when Petty's pre-Heartbreakers outfit, which he's recently resurrected from more than 30 years in the grave, performs Wednesday and Thursday at the Fillmore in San Francisco.
It's understandable, and even commendable, that Petty wants Mudcrutch to be its own entity, not just a cover band that plays Heartbreakers hits. If he's not going to play the fan favorites, though, he's got to give the crowd something else worthwhile in its place.
Unfortunately, that didn't happen in Santa Cruz. Petty played all 14 of the tracks from Mudcrutch's forthcoming eponymous debut, due in stores April 29, yet none of those selections was spectacular and very few were even memorable. Mudcrutch did toss in some fun cover songs — such as Dave Dudley's "Six Days on the Road" and Roger McGuinn's "Lover of the Bayou" — yet those renditions never rose above the basic bar-band level.
While the Heartbreakers always come across like a well-oiled machine, Mudcrutch definitely had some sludge in its engine as it opened the show with a version

of the old folk standard "Shady Grove" that never really came together. From there, the band — which also features Heartbreakers Mike Campbell on guitar and Benmont Tench on keyboards, as well as guitarist Tom Leadon and drummer Randall Marsh — mostly delivered the type of unremarkable country-rock that far too many Flying Burrito Brothers clones churned out in the '70s.
On the plus side, Petty was clearly enjoying the reunion and that translated into one of his more personable performances. Also, some of the new Mudcrutch lyrics — such as the great line from "Scare Easy," "Yeah, I'm a loser at the top of my game" — rank among the best that Petty has penned in years.
Yet, those elements couldn't compensate for the fact that this band just didn't gel all that well or that the crowd was forced to hear Leadon sing the dreadful "Queen of the Go Go Dancers." Thus, what the audience was left with was the novelty factor. It was novel to get the chance to see Petty's pre-Heartbreakers band, which lasted from 1970 to 1975 and only released one single. It was novel to hear Petty play bass, instead of his regular guitar. And it was novel for fans to finally meet Petty's old buddies Leadon and Marsh.
In the end, however, those novelties weren't enough.
Reach Jim Harrington at jharrington@bayareanewsgroup.com. Read his Concert Blog at www.ibabuzz.com/concerts (http://www.ibabuzz.com/concerts).

Mudcrutch in concert
When: 8 p.m. Wednesday and Thursday
Where: The Fillmore, 1805 Geary Blvd., San Francisco
Tickets: $55, 415-346-6000

KansasPettyFan
04-15-2008, 02:51 PM
^ You can rest your case alright! YOU and the guy who wrote the article are missing the whole point of a Tom wanting to do something different. Mudcrutch is a different band!

I agree, you are so right...life is short, get over it!

Refugee
04-15-2008, 02:57 PM
Proof, read Mr. Harrington's previous reviews of just about any band. What a nimrod.

This man likes music? LOL!

Mudcrutch
04-15-2008, 02:58 PM
Proof, read Mr. Harrington's previous reviews of just about any band. What a nimrod.

This man likes music? LOL!

kudos to you for taking the time to even read them..

WreckMeBaby
04-15-2008, 03:05 PM
Okay here's the deal; I could listen to Petty play all day. Don't care what it is. He's inspiring and genuine, I like that. But the fact remains it would be EVEN BETTER if he were to play one of the songs we know and love from him. It seems far more gimicky to have this separate band playing songs nobody knows - - I'm in no way dissing what he's trying to do; But it could be a better experience. BTW, I'm sure these two guys have been itching to get their hands on a Heartbreakers song for three decades, give it to them - give it to the crowd -

For the haters saying there's going to be a throw-down at Troubadour over shouting at songs - come on. It's a concert, I'll do whatever I want with no insult to anyone. Being excited and screaming out what comes to your mind is a genuine experience, and I won't back down. If you can't handle different people enjoying things on different levels and wanting different things - then keep listening to Tom Petty until you get it - - life's about accepting everyone, all ideas and opinions, even those that aren't like your own! I doubt that I would hurt anyone's feelings, and if I did, that would be their trip not mine since it's not the intention - - the only intention is to get him to play a good freakin' song.

Mudcrutch use to play American Girl and Breakdown, why the heck can't they play that in concert? It feels more like a charity benefit on behalf of the two previous excluded members, leaving them probably feeling even more 'in the dark' on the experience than before they were plucked from obscurity. I think it's all gravy, let them play whatever they want!! I will say and do whatever I want and you know what - everyone will have as good a time as they let themselves!

If he plays 6 shows at the Troubadour and they are all massive failures because they're banging out material that is tired and unispiring - then the mistake was not to beef it up with some electric performances of these guys playing the songs they started out with - hopefully Petty will give in to the demand for better performances from Mudcrutch and accept that his celebrity is bigger than any pet project he can put together and hope to take for a ride. We all watched 'Runnin' Down a Dream' - how can we not expect to hear the songs that made him who he is? That made the rest of the band who they are?

Like I said - he'll play Tom Petty songs at the Troubadour - you can write it down, it's going to happen. ;-0

Refugee
04-15-2008, 03:09 PM
^ WreckMeBaby, thanks for the laughs. :003:

Mudcrutch
04-15-2008, 03:14 PM
I think there are a large group of fans that have seen so many TPATH shows that we are STARVING to see anything off the map but by the same general group of guys. Mudcrutch is that opportunity.

There are some TPATH songs that would indeed make sense at a Mudcrutch show.. but we know those songs and have already seen them live.

nurktwin
04-15-2008, 03:15 PM
sounds like WMB and J Harrington are the same person. get a life and go see who you want. if no one reads your articles in the newspaper, "don't come round here no more". you're obviousely someone trying to find your way through life and make a name for yourself, and it's not gonna work here. you've posted 6 times, and still don't get it. this is a tom petty and the heartbreakers site!! it's not a place for you to vent your frustrations or dislike of the band. btw, i would imagine you are a member of the official tom petty site, and therefore i can see your madness, just don't take it over here. btw again, welcome to the farm.

WreckMeBaby
04-15-2008, 03:32 PM
IF IT'S A TOM PETTY AND THE HEARTBREAKERS SITE, THEN WHY AM I BEING VILLIANIZED WANTING TO HEAR HIM PLAY A GOD DAMN TOM PETTY AND THE HEARTBREAKERS SONG!!!!!!!

I can say whatever I want, I love Tom Petty. I love a lot of people, that doesn't stop me from pointing out what I do not like - - come on. 1) Don't take it personal. 2) Get some maturity and don't take cheap shots at me because I can type and put my thoughts down in an expressive way you can understand (even if you don't like it!). 3) I have no intentions of making a name for myself on a website that probably has at most about 10,000 hits and is comprised of people like me, who like Tom Petty. 4) I haven't seen TPATH more than once, at Randalls Island in NYC. I would love to hear more TPATH - but lets face it, they are aging and won't tour forever, it's my desire to hear more TPATH even if it means seeing half the Heartbreakers and Tom Petty playing as Mudcrutch - - but again, I would like to hear Mudcrutch play songs they use to play back in the day - - not a new album that I don't know as well (I really like the six tracks I have!).

I'm down to take all your insults and grandstanding. It's cool for me. I just posted a quick thought on here and have become interested in how it plays out - - other peoples thoughts and ideas. In case you've noticed, I'm less concerned with getting people to side with me and more concerned with expressing my feelings on the issue. I'm right, and your right - to quote Obama, you can disagree without being disagreeable. Why don't you give it a shot and give me a reason to blindly caress these 14 songs I'm going to hear 3x when I would be SO HAPPY to hear just one song, "I Won't Back Down," or "It's Good to be King." I mean, I paid the money to see the guy, going to see him 4x in a month - - nobody should be questioning my sincerity and appreciation towards Tom Petty (and Mudcrutch or Heartbreakers).

Keep it real yo - thanks for welcoming me to the farm. Looks like I'm going to be sticking around!

Travis

Refugee
04-15-2008, 03:36 PM
^ It's Good To Be King???? :095:

Okay, now you have just crossed the line, LOL!

Before you get your panties in a twist, it's because I can't stand the song.

Okay...Travis...now you know that Mudcrutch is NOT going to play any TP&TH songs, you have posted your dismay, it's not going to change anything, so let's talk about something else.

Do you like baseball? Who's your team?

WreckMeBaby
04-15-2008, 03:40 PM
"It's Good to be King" is such a trip live - it's so simple yet becomes so distant and resonates with me - - I love that song. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM NOW!? Did I quote that I liked a song that is not the premier TPATH song or something? Should I get some nails and go grab me a cross now or should I wait until I really screw up and say something like you all act like Stevie Nicks, blindly following Tom Petty like a school girl with her eyes gleaming open and in need of constant validation that never seems to materialize... ;-0

It's good to be king, and have your own way, get a feeling of peace at the end of the day. It's good to get high, and never come down, it's good to be king, of your own little town.

Refugee
04-15-2008, 03:44 PM
LOL! You crack me up. There's no problem, I just said I don't like It's Good To Be King, like you stated you want TP&TH songs at a Mudcrutch concert. To each their own, right?

Wow, I guess your panties or tighties whities are twisted too tight.

Back to baseball...you pulling for any particular team?

Wildflower
04-15-2008, 03:45 PM
"It's Good to be King" is such a trip live - it's so simple yet becomes so distant and resonates with me - - I love that song. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM NOW!? Did I quote that I liked a song that is not the premier TPATH song or something? Should I get some nails and go grab me a cross now or should I wait until I really screw up and say something like you all act like Stevie Nicks, blindly following Tom Petty like a school girl with her eyes gleaming open and in need of constant validation that never seems to materialize... ;-0




Shhhhhhhhhhhht!

Mudcrutch
04-15-2008, 03:47 PM
Yes very interesting.. I could have never guessed there would be such a divide.

(and Ref and I will always be at odds over "It's Good to Be King" live.. haha..)

Athena
04-15-2008, 03:48 PM
...let them play whatever they want!!

Exactly! And this time, it seems they want to play Mudcrutch songs.

Refugee
04-15-2008, 03:49 PM
Yes very interesting.. I could have never guessed there would be such a divide.

(and Ref and I will always be at odds over "It's Good to Be King" live.. haha..)

:p ;)

WreckMeBaby
04-15-2008, 03:50 PM
LOL LOL!!!

I don't do baseball, I dig music. I eat it, breathe it, screw it, play it, listen to it and yeah, write about it (on Mudcrutch.com, it's new, but I'm starting to like it a lot).

He'll play some cool stuff at the Troubadour - - but looks like I need to be really high for this one now - - anyone wants a fun lolipop see me at the show!

nurktwin
04-15-2008, 03:50 PM
travis, you can stick around as long as you want, as long as you don't call me "yo"......lol.

Refugee
04-15-2008, 03:51 PM
Now you're talking. Do the lollypops say JACK on them?

Relic
04-15-2008, 03:54 PM
Dude, I don't think we meant to attack you. This is a very friendly place and a great group of music fans.

But I don't think we are 'projecting' our own feelings, but rather what the band has basically already stated, when we jump up and down and scream "MUDCRUTCH IS NOT TOM PETTY AND THE HEARTBREAKERS!"

I have got to believe that this is a real concern - that some fans are not willing to give the reunion a chance to stand on its own merits, as a separate entity that just happens to have 3 Heartbreakers in it.

Its like that actor or actress that gets type-cast early in their career and has a hell of a time getting roles outside of that 'box.'

There are some incredible new songs on the Mudcrutch CD, and I (for one) clearly hear musical elements that trace back to Heartbreaker and Dirty Knobs DNA - yet not so much that the music fails to stand on its own.

I think the Mudcrutch CD and live performances contain plenty of merit and lots to love, without any need to 'run back home to mama' and those proven Heartbreakers hits.

Besides, as others have pointed out, there is a Heartbreakers tour this Summer, so we can all 'have our cake and eat it too!"


Its a wonderful time to be a music fan!


Peace

Athena
04-15-2008, 03:56 PM
Let them eat cake!! More Cake! More Cake! (Sorry, couldn't help myself)

Relic
04-15-2008, 03:58 PM
P.S.

Linda is whack, Its good to be king is great!

(neener neener)

Refugee
04-15-2008, 03:59 PM
Yes, it's a great "got to go potty" song. :p

WreckMeBaby
04-15-2008, 04:01 PM
I can bring cake too!! LOL. I'm full of goodies... I'll be the happiest one there haha, shouting "Don't Back Down" (at the appropriate time, like when he walks onstage) or not! lol. J/k.

Yeah, knowing I'll see TPATH at the Bowl does make it all seem like cake - - - nice physodelic pharmacy grade cake... ahhhhhh, it is good to be alive folks.

Refugee
04-15-2008, 04:03 PM
Cake or banana bread? ;)

PS - Where are your seats at the Bowl?

Athena
04-15-2008, 04:05 PM
Yes, it's a great "got to go potty" song. :p

I think an intervention is going to be necessary.

Relic
04-15-2008, 04:09 PM
I offer my love to those endowed with smaller bladders who must make a potty run during the show.

I even married a person who suffers from 'peanut bladder' syndrome. Sometimes when beginning road trips we cant even make it to the freeway before I hear the old refrain,

"Um, honey, I gotta pee."

It only took 5 or 6 years of marriage before I realized that in order to maximize the potential for domestic tranquility I needed to heed these pleas. Of course there were the 'wise-ass' years when requests such as these were invariably met with a detour through nearby parking lots with big-assed speed bumps, or the roughest pavement I could find.


Next time I see Linda, Im going to do a secret experiment. I'll play 'Its good to be king' at subliminal message volume levels and see if, like Pavlov's dogs, Linda has become so conditioned to making a potty run when the song is played that she suddenly has the urge to go. ;)

(running like hell)

nurktwin
04-15-2008, 04:34 PM
^lol, linda will kick your butt if you do that.

Wingspan91089
04-15-2008, 04:39 PM
^^LOL Relic!

KansasPettyFan
04-15-2008, 05:03 PM
Relic, you are too funny! HAHAHAHAHA

Refugee
04-15-2008, 05:20 PM
HAHAHAHAHA!! ;)

Relic
04-15-2008, 05:37 PM
If Linda doesn't get me, Athena will.....

Simply CANNOT WAIT for the Troubadour shows now.

(Jumping up and down like I have to pee)

Dynabeat Tim
04-15-2008, 05:47 PM
This thread is funny. But the more I read it, it reminds of the prince and the pauper !! It is bizarre that Tom is playing like they are this band that isn't TP&HB, and they want to be a bar band, when so many bar bands want to be able to do "concerts".....I'd love to trade with him for a day LOL, but anyway, this is a little bit like when Paul McCartney wanted to go back to doing little clubs around the time of Get Back, and the others shot the idea down. And he eventually did do it with the early Wings. But just imagine if around that time John and Paul had put the Quarrymen back together. I think its cool, that Tom is saying, the world didn't take to us the first time, but there was something about that combination of musicians that hit its own groove and I would like to expose that now, especially since we have a better chance of being accepted. I hope he's given that chance. On the other hand, that review made me think, It didn't work then, and its not working now. LOL. You have to give the guys credit, especially the other 2 who haven't had that "BIG" exposure. They must be under alot of pressure. Has anyone else notice how Tom seems to get some of his idea's from the beatles ? I mean with doing this sort of thing, like I had mentioned Paul wanting to do. And also performing "the last DJ" Cd as a complete show, like the beatles were going to do with "let It Be" ? I wish I could see these shows and I hope theres a DVD.
Peace

Relic
04-15-2008, 06:18 PM
Great comments Tim!

Personally, I think that Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers have always had the 'bar band' gene in their DNA, but perhaps it wasn't a dominant gene? Still, I think I can hear it in their music, some tracks more than others of course.

As for the pressure on Randall and Tom L, they were thriving on stage at Malibu.

I also wonder what it must be like for them. Forgive me for not knowing, but I suspect that it might have been a while since Randall or Tom L played in gigs like these, to audiences like these... It has got to be an adjustment if you have not done it in a while don't you think? Going on the road pretty grueling too!

But at one point in the Malibu gig, I saw Tom L look down at the front of the audience- The band was rocking and rolling and he was faced with a throng of cheering fans, including a good number of very lovely ladies who were were dancing and jumping -

Tom got this wonderful smile on his face....

Call me a nut but to me that smile said, "Hey, I remember this!"

And I also think it said, "Finally, I'm back home again."

KansasPettyFan
04-15-2008, 06:43 PM
I'd bet you are probably right, Relic. I am happy for them that they seem to be having such a great time. :)

Marion
04-15-2008, 08:48 PM
http://www.mudcrutch.com/honeybees/images/smiles/happy-smiley-8833.bmp

Nylle
04-15-2008, 09:05 PM
You know they're having a great time. Tom likes to play it safe with the setlists when TPATH tours, but you KNOW he's got to be sick of playing those songs. This has got be a huge treat for him, Mike & Benmont.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go have some cake and watch the Mets.

kira
04-17-2008, 03:18 PM
Hey Relic,

So glad you learned when to stop for the better half. When given the call to stop, my first husband would blaze through town and then pull off on some side road for my convience and comfort. He didn't want to have to buy a pack of gum of waste time. Did I tell you he is an ex?

Tell me about your pass on cameras at the Troubadour? I'm guessing by your being turned down for a camera pass that cameras are not allowed??? Or would that only be for those with enormously big lenses?

Athena
04-17-2008, 03:44 PM
Hey, how do you know about my husband's enourmously big lenses? ;)

Back to the topic at hand...I wonder if this experience will inspire Tom to change his usual set list for the tour this year.

kira
04-17-2008, 04:46 PM
LMAO!!

Seems like after the tour with Dylan, everyone was excited about how Bob would shake it up instead of following a set list. I wonder if list is for them or for guitar techs to know which guitar to bring out next.

Relic
04-19-2008, 03:57 AM
regarding the camera thing, you can't blame me for trying huh?

I politely requested permission to take some non-commercial photos at the event, they very politely turned me down, and I thanked them for their consideration.

I had a perfect seat and it might have worked out very nicely, but thats how it goes :)

As a joke I considered creating a slide show 'stick figure' re-enactment of the gig and uploading it to the TP BBS in lieu of photos, but just didn't have the time (or the guts!)

Had I not asked first, I probably could have gotten off a few shots before they asked me to stop, but once they made their wishes known, there is no way I was going to go make waves.

I would have liked to have had a chance to capture that moment when Benmont ran from behind his piano over to where Tom was standing, and teased him about what key the song was in. Mike was in on it too. You should have seen the smiles and laughter going on. EVERYONE was cutting it up. It was a priceless moment. Would have made a hell of a shot if I managed to catch it instead of standing there doubled over in laughter myself.

[edit: I don't know how to describe it exactly, but that slip-up just seemed to deflate all of the tension in the air. We were laughing most because of the release of tension I think, and the situation which just seemed preposterous! We were laughing WITH the band of course. I sure hope Tom realizes that! When they got it right on the 4th take, Mudcrutch was hitting on every cylinder and they were AMAZING. They were PERFECT. In that one moment, they passed through some kind of barrier - it happened like a stroke of lightning, and it blasted the tension to smithereens.

In this bizarre mixed-up wacko world, and in some unfathomable way this was a defining moment.

I think maybe its Destiny at work, correcting a blow-out in the time-line 35 years ago. ]

agirl
04-19-2008, 03:59 AM
As a joke I considered creating a slide show 'stick figure' re-enactment of the gig and uploading it to the TP BBS in lieu of photos, but just didn't have the time (or the guts!)
LMAO!

WildflowerNJ
04-19-2008, 05:20 AM
Relic, lol!!

WreckMeBaby
04-21-2008, 12:48 PM
I can't wait to see Mudcrutch!!

I am thrilled they are playing only Mudcrutch songs and am totally 100% behind this band!

It's incredible! Saturday at the Troubadour will be my first show, then Tuesday and then Friday May 2nd.

Amazing...

"Lover of the Bayou" is my fav - LOVE iT!

"I was raised and swam with the crocodile, I'm a lover of the Bayou"

I don't know if I was just trying to rile people up or if I really wanted Petty to play "I Won't Back Down" at the Troubadour - but regardless, I am set and stoked to see Mudcrutch and excited at the prospect of a music legend not having to be tethered down by labels and able to go, "Hey, I want to be in this band - - it's my buddies and that's what music is about - so that's what I'm going to do." I'm paraphrasing, but in essence, that's what he's done and I think it's the shit.

Troubadour is going to sizzle baby! Cya guys there.

Pankie
04-21-2008, 01:04 PM
^Well, lookee that, he backed down!!!!

Really, you have to stop stereotyping Tom's music. I think it's beautiful to see performers do something different. Tom is a very versitile musician and should be respected as such...